As the Republican Party’s blockade of aid to Ukraine drags into its fourth month, the U.S. government under Pres. Joe Biden has found a clever new way to give Ukraine’s forces the weapons and ammunition they need to defend their country.

It is, in essence, an American version of Germany’s circular weapons trade—the so-called Ringtausch. The United States is gifting older surplus weapons to Greece with the understanding that Greece donates to Ukraine some of its own surplus weapons.

Greek media broke the news last week. According to the newspaper Kathimerini and other media, the Biden administration offered the Greek government three 87-foot Protector-class patrol boats, two Lockheed Martin C-130H airlifters, 10 Allison T56 turboprop engines for Lockheed P-3 patrol planes plus 60 M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles and a consignment of transport trucks.

All this hardware is U.S. military surplus—and is available to Greece, free of charge, under a U.S. legal authority called “excess defense articles.” Federal law allows an American president to declare military systems surplus to need, assign them a value—potentially zero dollars—and give them away on the condition that the recipient transport them.

  • @givesomefucks
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    You think Biden closing the border as soon as he’s able is a good thing?

    Like, you understand that wouldn’t just be a one time thing right? Future presidents could do it to, and Republicans actually do out things in motion in their first days.

    I mean, Biden went from saying the border wasn’t an issue to saying we need that literally over night.

    That doesn’t concern you?

    • @[email protected]
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      I feel like that was just a dare to the Republicans. That way when they kill the bill, they can’t point to Biden as the cause.

      • @fpslem
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        This was my interpretation as well.

      • @[email protected]
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        But objectively, illegal immigration is at record high numbers.

        No it isn’t. Not even close. This is just assuming that because Republicans say it is that it’s actually the worst its ever been. Somehow every presidential election it’s the worst its ever been and news organizations parrot the accusation without just calling them out on the BS.

        https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/the-facts-on-the-increase-in-illegal-immigration/

      • @givesomefucks
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        it’s mostly due to the hot economy, but American voters don’t understand that)

        What?

        The economy is propped up by record breaking fossil fuels drilling and corporations increasing prices 2-3x while not raising pay…

        That’s something virtually every American is aware of right now…

        And while Biden trying to brag about the economy hurts him. Either he doesn’t understand that very basic thing, or he doesn’t give two fucks about theaverage American, just corporations and billionaires.

        Which has been a critique of American neoliberalism since James Carville started spouting all this stupid shit to begin with

        • @[email protected]
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          Holy hyperbole batman. Prices rose by about 15% on average and wages rose as well, but not as much (between 7 and 12% depending on the source).

          Which given 10 years of almost no inflation and moderate wage growth, is not that surprising.

          • @[email protected]
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            Unemployment at a 60-year low, real wages at a 50-year high. That’s not to say there aren’t problems (largely the cost of housing, education and healthcare eating up all the gains over the last half century), but the economy is good, Jack.

          • @givesomefucks
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            No, the person I replied to said increased immigration is due to our “hot economy”…

            But it’s not, because all that money is going into a very small amount of pockets.

              • @rockSlayer
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                Didn’t you just say you weren’t American? Why are you discrediting the experience of people living in the US?

              • @givesomefucks
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                Oh wow…

                Yeah. I don’t think me explaining anything else to you is gonna help then bud.

                The difference is I’m going to do something so I never accidentally try again.

    • @Nudding
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      Or the fact that he can just bypass congress to give weapons to Israel, or the record oil extraction during his first term? Dems pretending their party isn’t actively destroying the world is wild.

      • @TrickDacy
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        Are we still pretending bOtH sIdEs or are we just skipping straight to “democrats are evil don’t vote for them” now?

        • @Nudding
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          As a Canadian, yeah both of your right wing parties are essentially the same. Brown kids will be bombed and oil will be pumped.

          • @TrickDacy
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            2910 months ago

            And these lies will lead to trump again. Thanks for that

            • @Sami_Uso
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              Dems will lead themselves there, just like they did in 2016. Stop blaming voters for your party’s incompetence.

              • @TrickDacy
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                I’m blaming morons spreading discontent and shitty ass ideas and that’s fully fair. Thanks for changing the subject though

                • @Sami_Uso
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                  Why are you so worried about “spreading discontent” in a small community message board? Don’t get me wrong, you should be about this election, but don’t you think it’s a little late now?

                  • @TrickDacy
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                    The election is in 9 months.

              • @TrickDacy
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                1510 months ago

                Trump definitely would dial it back, so you’re totally not a bad faith liar after all!

                  • @Nudding
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                    They’re just as bad as the republicans on this issue lol.

                • @Nudding
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                  Sorry, what have I lied about?

        • HACKthePRISONS
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          >are we just skipping straight to “democrats are evil don’t vote for them” now?

          i’ve been there over a decade.

            • @Nudding
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              Nothing screams serious/authority like a video game reference username lol.

            • queermunist she/her
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              I was wondering when someone would finally call me out on that lol

              But I’m quite serious about hating America. No one should be president and we should do everything possible to make that a reality.

              • @Nudding
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                Seems like it’s usually just you and I down here lol. Let me guess, disillusioned American?

                • queermunist she/her
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                  Yeah, I voted for Biden to “stop fascism” and now he’s doing a genocide and on the brink of war with Iran.

                  • @Nudding
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                    Yeah it’s rough, but if you’re radicalized young enough you can hopefully foster positive change over your lifetime.

                    Its too late for the star trek future but we can still be part of positive support structures, enjoy the time we have, etc…

                  • Sybil
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                    I voted for Biden to “stop fascism”

                    i’m afraid it had the opposite effect.