I’m very far from being a nihilist. I believe in things that can actually be verified. I believe in some people and some ideals.
I just don’t base my beliefs on self-contradictory and often batshit insane orders from long dead idiots and wielders of unearned authority pretending to represent a fictional being that’s its own dad.
In another comment you kept linking Christianity with paedophilia, which is a big strawman. And trying to ask me why I didn’t drown nonce priests like I am in charge of a completely different denomination which I am not even a member of.
you kept linking Christianity with paedophilia, which is a big strawman
No. There is a shitload of evidence of widespread child rape committed by Christian churches. There’s no evidence of me being a nihilist and there wouldn’t be since I’m not.
And trying to ask me why I didn’t drown nonce priests
That was obviously a facetious rhetorical question.
Yes, but there’s evidence of athiests being nihilists and claiming that ‘nothing matters’ and believing in subjective morality, which has led to atrocities. So suddenly Christianity represents the actions of all Christians but Athiesm doesn’t represent the actions of all Athiests?
So if you’re using various Christian institutions as arguments against Christianity, then I could easily point to large Athiest countries like Maoist China and Soviet Russia who murdered millions. Or Nazi Germany (Don’t try and claim Hitler was a Christian; he most certainly was not and was only using the label to get votes) who tried to dehumanise humans into being less than animals.
Nope. Not believing in religion is not the same thing as not believing in anything. Far from it.
claiming that ‘nothing matters’ and believing in subjective morality
Another ridiculous strawman 🙄
which has led to atrocities
Nope. If any beliefs have led to atrocities, it’s religious ones. In fact, religion is probably the number two cause of murder after greed.
So suddenly Christianity represents the actions of all Christians
No, I specifically said the church, not all Christians. Unlike you, I’m not a bigot who thinks all members of a group are the same.
Athiesm doesn’t represent the actions of all Athiests?
Correct.
I could easily point to large Athiest countries like Maoist China and Soviet Russia who murdered millions
You could, but you’d be stupid to do so. Those millions died because of politics, not a lack of religion.
Don’t try and claim Hitler was a Christian; he most certainly was not
He was and then he wasn’t. He was never an atheist, though:
During the beginning of his political life, Hitler publicly expressed favorable opinions towards Christianity, but later totally rejected it. Most historians describe his later posture as adversarial to organized Christianity and established Christian denominations. He also criticized atheism.
who tried to dehumanise humans into being less than animals.
Which the worst Christian bigots do to this day. It’s debatable whether or not Donald Trump is a Christian himself, but he’s referred to groups of people he doesn’t like as vermin and his Christian bigot followers cheered.
No, I specifically said the church, not all Christians. Unlike you, I’m not a bigot who thinks all members of a group are the same.
Okay. What Church? The Roman Catholic church? That has nothing to do with me and little to do with the teachings of Christianity as a whole, there are many Christian churches.
And Ironically, how come I am a bigot all of a sudden? Is it because I am Christian? Why do you think that? Do you think that we’re all the same?
And yeah, Trump has said abhorrent things. He is an abhorrent person. But he hasn’t followed the teachings of Jesus, such as the rich man and lazarus.
Not every single local chapel or whatever, but all of the denominations. Catholic, Orthodox, Southern Baptist, First Baptist, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist etc. You name one and there’s been clergy raping children. Including whichever sect you belong to.
how come I am a bigot all of a sudden? Is it because I am Christian?
No, it’s because of your bigoted statements, such as your automatic assumption that all atheists are nihilists and that atheism leads to evil.
Trump has said abhorrent things. He is an abhorrent person. But he hasn’t followed the teachings of Jesus, such as the rich man and lazarus.
The vast majority of the people who worship him call themselves Christians, though. Are they all lying?
That you’ve been doing something ridiculous for a long time doesn’t make it any less stupid. Quite the opposite.
Also, this is Lemmy, not Reddit.
Holy strawman, Batman!
I’m very far from being a nihilist. I believe in things that can actually be verified. I believe in some people and some ideals.
I just don’t base my beliefs on self-contradictory and often batshit insane orders from long dead idiots and wielders of unearned authority pretending to represent a fictional being that’s its own dad.
In another comment you kept linking Christianity with paedophilia, which is a big strawman. And trying to ask me why I didn’t drown nonce priests like I am in charge of a completely different denomination which I am not even a member of.
No. There is a shitload of evidence of widespread child rape committed by Christian churches. There’s no evidence of me being a nihilist and there wouldn’t be since I’m not.
That was obviously a facetious rhetorical question.
Yes, but there’s evidence of athiests being nihilists and claiming that ‘nothing matters’ and believing in subjective morality, which has led to atrocities. So suddenly Christianity represents the actions of all Christians but Athiesm doesn’t represent the actions of all Athiests?
So if you’re using various Christian institutions as arguments against Christianity, then I could easily point to large Athiest countries like Maoist China and Soviet Russia who murdered millions. Or Nazi Germany (Don’t try and claim Hitler was a Christian; he most certainly was not and was only using the label to get votes) who tried to dehumanise humans into being less than animals.
Nope. Not believing in religion is not the same thing as not believing in anything. Far from it.
Another ridiculous strawman 🙄
Nope. If any beliefs have led to atrocities, it’s religious ones. In fact, religion is probably the number two cause of murder after greed.
No, I specifically said the church, not all Christians. Unlike you, I’m not a bigot who thinks all members of a group are the same.
Correct.
You could, but you’d be stupid to do so. Those millions died because of politics, not a lack of religion.
He was and then he wasn’t. He was never an atheist, though:
Source for more details
Which the worst Christian bigots do to this day. It’s debatable whether or not Donald Trump is a Christian himself, but he’s referred to groups of people he doesn’t like as vermin and his Christian bigot followers cheered.
Okay. What Church? The Roman Catholic church? That has nothing to do with me and little to do with the teachings of Christianity as a whole, there are many Christian churches.
And Ironically, how come I am a bigot all of a sudden? Is it because I am Christian? Why do you think that? Do you think that we’re all the same?
And yeah, Trump has said abhorrent things. He is an abhorrent person. But he hasn’t followed the teachings of Jesus, such as the rich man and lazarus.
Not every single local chapel or whatever, but all of the denominations. Catholic, Orthodox, Southern Baptist, First Baptist, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist etc. You name one and there’s been clergy raping children. Including whichever sect you belong to.
No, it’s because of your bigoted statements, such as your automatic assumption that all atheists are nihilists and that atheism leads to evil.
The vast majority of the people who worship him call themselves Christians, though. Are they all lying?