• Siethron
      112·
      2 years ago

      I’d argue ‘f’ they don’t press hard but they lightly touch

      • Soggy
        35·
        2 years ago

        Bro what are you doing with your lips? “F” is top teeth on lower lip.

        • Siethron
          4·
          2 years ago

          My front lip is over my teeth when I say it, and it is touching the bottom lip.

          • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
            7·
            2 years ago

            you can also form an /s/ with various parts of the tongue and mouth but it’s generally held to be an alveolar bladal fricative.

            • Siethron
              2·
              2 years ago

              You don’t purse the lips together, they’re lightly touching allowing air to go through

            • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
              2·
              2 years ago

              Not if your lips just touch lightly in the middle and the air flows around the sides.

              Maybe it’s a regional thing, but that’s also how I say that sound.

                • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  Yeah - I mean, I can say an f-word like “fountain” without lowering my upper lip and (to my ears at least) it sounds almost the same if not identical, but I have to do it consciously and it feels unnatural.

          • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
            6·
            2 years ago

            as a phoneme, it’s a bilabial approximant - meaning the lips form the sound by moving close but not touching and then parting again

            compare to the palatal approixmant /y/ formed by the root of the tongue performing a similar action with the soft palate.

          • Turun@feddit.de
            53·
            2 years ago

            Like … Have you ever read a word with w in it?

            I kinda know what you are getting at - if you dictate a word by pronouncing each letter separately you need to add stuff to each one to make it stand out - but Jesus Christ, what a question.

            Hodoubleu is the doublueather today? Only a fedoubleu oubleuhite clouds in a clear blue sky.

            Thanks for making me laugh!

            Edit: in German it is pronounced “we”, with the e like in ketchup.

            • tan00k
              5·
              2 years ago

              I vote we change it in English to be pronounced like in German. It always bugged me that it’s the only multisyllabic letter name. Along the same lines, we should rename seven to sev.

                • Turun@feddit.de
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  I sometimes like reading or listening to stories of people scamming scammers. He used this exact thing to really confuse the scammer.

                  “Please type in double u double double u…”
                  “Alright, I typed in double u double u double… It says page not found” (i.e. uuuuuu)

              • Turun@feddit.de
                1·
                2 years ago

                In German y is not pronounced as “why”, but instead as “Ypsilon”. You win some you lose some I guess.

                More infuriating is “e” - it’s pronounced as “I” ffs! But when in a word only if it’s the first letter or something. Otherwise it’s pronounced as “e” as it rightfully should be!

      • BradleyUffnerEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        It doesn’t say “no opening”, it just says “lips touch”. My lips can touch without completely closing.

    • harmsy
      31·
      2 years ago

      Bruh what are you smoking? My lips don’t touch for W. They don’t even move half the time.