Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who voted twice to convict former President Trump on impeachment charges, is ruling out voting for Trump in 2024, citing a court’s finding that the former president sexua…
It’s easy to find Romney supporting something you agree with, because he’s taken both sides of most issues. He seems reasonable now in comparison to Trump and the MAGA dipshits, but that’s a really low bar we should ignore.
Changing your mind can be a good thing, if your decision is based on new facts and a change in public opinion.
Changing your mind because wealthy doners tell you to is not.
I honestly don’t care to dive into Romneys past enough to figure out which is which. But changing one’s mind over a lifetime in politics is probably a good thing.
I don’t need to dive into anything, I lived through his career. He was progressive in Massachusetts when it served him to be so. He was regressive in Utah when it served him to be so. He is the quintessential slimeball politician, constantly asking where his people are going so that he might lead them there.
He also put his dog in a crate on top of his car and went on a road trip. So he’s definitely a piece of shit any way you slice it.
So… you’re saying he represented the people he was elected to represent, and worked within those bounds?
The dog thing is a weird ass thing to bring up in a discussion on his politics.
I voted against him for president. I’m sure I disliked his conservative policies, and dems had a good candidate, so it was a no brainer. But I don’t need to demonify him.
No, I’m saying he pretended to represent those people while serving himself. He paid lip service to the base voters, and used wedge issues like a gambler uses slot machines, going from one to the next hoping for a big payout.
The dog thing just brings into stark relief what sort of person he is in private. He told that story on himself, because he thought it was funny when he saw his dog’s piss and shit running down the back windshield on the highway. That’s a man who lacks empathy, and is entirely out of touch with regular humans.
Almost like he’s a conservative. Not a Republican but picked a party because you have to if you want your votes/political career to go anywhere. It would be fair to say both conservatives and liberals alike do not appreciate sexual assault / rape. The Republican party just closed it’s eyes or looks away because it will hit their political strength to acknowledge all the scumbags in their party
To be a conservative is to grow your political beliefs around your identity. Every conservative is the same in this regard, and that is how you end up with wildly disparate conservative values. The first decision a conservative makes is who is included in the “self.” Then they decide what policies and positions best benefit the self. This has always been true of every conservative who ever lived.
The problem they have right now is that Trump has made himself the only “self” that matters, and supporting him is the only path to power the Republican party has. All who have opposed him were made to kneel or be destroyed. Even Romney supported Trump when it was politically expedient. Romney tried to wrest control of the GOP away from Trump and failed, and look at him now.
The party must support Trump, because to abandon him now is to admit to the grift. They would have to acknowledge that he isn’t the messiah, and then the in-fighting begins. Because suddenly they would need to redefine the self, and whoever wins gets to set the values of the party.
Damn, remember when he was one of the “evil” ones? Now look at us, almost taking his side and desperately hoping a new wave Republican doesn’t summon an incubus as their running mate.
The last somewhat normal repub dirtbag. Stopped clock.
It’s easy to find Romney supporting something you agree with, because he’s taken both sides of most issues. He seems reasonable now in comparison to Trump and the MAGA dipshits, but that’s a really low bar we should ignore.
Changing your mind can be a good thing, if your decision is based on new facts and a change in public opinion.
Changing your mind because wealthy doners tell you to is not.
I honestly don’t care to dive into Romneys past enough to figure out which is which. But changing one’s mind over a lifetime in politics is probably a good thing.
I don’t need to dive into anything, I lived through his career. He was progressive in Massachusetts when it served him to be so. He was regressive in Utah when it served him to be so. He is the quintessential slimeball politician, constantly asking where his people are going so that he might lead them there.
He also put his dog in a crate on top of his car and went on a road trip. So he’s definitely a piece of shit any way you slice it.
So… you’re saying he represented the people he was elected to represent, and worked within those bounds?
The dog thing is a weird ass thing to bring up in a discussion on his politics.
I voted against him for president. I’m sure I disliked his conservative policies, and dems had a good candidate, so it was a no brainer. But I don’t need to demonify him.
No, I’m saying he pretended to represent those people while serving himself. He paid lip service to the base voters, and used wedge issues like a gambler uses slot machines, going from one to the next hoping for a big payout.
The dog thing just brings into stark relief what sort of person he is in private. He told that story on himself, because he thought it was funny when he saw his dog’s piss and shit running down the back windshield on the highway. That’s a man who lacks empathy, and is entirely out of touch with regular humans.
Almost like he’s a conservative. Not a Republican but picked a party because you have to if you want your votes/political career to go anywhere. It would be fair to say both conservatives and liberals alike do not appreciate sexual assault / rape. The Republican party just closed it’s eyes or looks away because it will hit their political strength to acknowledge all the scumbags in their party
To be a conservative is to grow your political beliefs around your identity. Every conservative is the same in this regard, and that is how you end up with wildly disparate conservative values. The first decision a conservative makes is who is included in the “self.” Then they decide what policies and positions best benefit the self. This has always been true of every conservative who ever lived.
The problem they have right now is that Trump has made himself the only “self” that matters, and supporting him is the only path to power the Republican party has. All who have opposed him were made to kneel or be destroyed. Even Romney supported Trump when it was politically expedient. Romney tried to wrest control of the GOP away from Trump and failed, and look at him now.
The party must support Trump, because to abandon him now is to admit to the grift. They would have to acknowledge that he isn’t the messiah, and then the in-fighting begins. Because suddenly they would need to redefine the self, and whoever wins gets to set the values of the party.
Damn, remember when he was one of the “evil” ones? Now look at us, almost taking his side and desperately hoping a new wave Republican doesn’t summon an incubus as their running mate.