Wow. Okay. I think like you read a lot of negative tone into my comment that wasn’t there so I’m going to explicitly say here and now that my tone is polite and casual. I am not trying to be accusatory.
Really? You felt it was important to start off with this tone on semantics?
It’s not semantics in this case. Due to there being many different instances with many different admins, I felt that it was important to distinguish. Not for you specifically but in general.
Why does that matter?
Because you have not said anything about this for 4 months and have suddenly brought it up out of nowhere.
Your comment was the first reply.
No. It was not. This is proven in the screenshot you yourself posted as the person below me is responding to the exact same comment. My tone is now starting to change from friendly to cautious because I’m not a huge fan of being lied about, especially when you yourself have posted the proof against your own claim.
I never made that claim. Why even bring this up? Does it matter?
That is on me. I misread something.
Again, why does it matter that it was 4 months? What if it was 6 months? 4 weeks? 4 days? How does that change your actions?
It doesn’t change my actions. It reflects yours. You haven’t said anything about this for months and made a screenshot immediately of it. You never talked about this to me. You never gave me a chance to apologize. You never addressed to me at all.
This is what happened: You created a post. I made a harmless joke. You didn’t like that joke and made a toxic comment. Other people didn’t like that joke and joined in to make toxic comments. I called those people out for being toxic since my joke was aimed at no individual and completely harmless, and the backlash for that was all toxic comments aimed at me for just shooting my shot to make other people laugh. When I called people out for being toxic that included you which is why I had that screenshot and I even pinged you directly with it.
No. You made a toxic comment. You made some “joke” that all the cast of SNW were too pretty or too beautiful. It was a backhanded and snarky comment which is why you were called jealous by the person in your screenshot. This is also why I said that you want what you can’t have. As for the ping, I didn’t get one or at least never saw one. But the last thing I would have been interested in doing in that moment would have been doubling down in public. If I got a ping like that I would have sent a private apology. Because I deleted it due to feeling like a dick. Did I think your comment was tasteless, unfunny, and frankly kind of rude? Yeah. But did I feel like a douchebag for being negative towards you? Yes. Thus why it was deleted almost immediately.
How can I even take this apology seriously in the context of tone of this whole comment?
That’s on you. The tone of my comment was not intended the way that you clearly took it. For that I also apologize in being unclear. But I am not trying to be angry or hostile or bitter here. Just genuinely saying that I am sorry, that I didn’t know you were upset, and that I can’t apologize for something I didn’t know was a thing.
My reasoning for that is you started off by correcting my incorrect choice of word.
Because that was the opening of your message. I responded to your comment piece by piece, exactly as you did to me immediately after. Like I said, you assumed my tone and then acted off of that instead of asking for clarification.
My issue with it is that you have a large amount of weight in the Star Trek communities, and particularly under your own posts, and so when you post a toxic comment it shows others that it’s okay to do so as well.
The comment was deleted within 5 minutes, something that you are repeatedly ignoring and failing to leave out. Your entire lecture is predicated off of the assumption that the comment was left up long enough for a large number of people to see it which is just not true. It was deleted within 5 minutes. Pretty much the only people to see it were you and maybe 5 other people. You have shown that comment to more people than ever originally saw it when it was posted. You are giving more creedence and giving it more power than I ever did. You keep insisting and acting that I have “all this weight” and that it “won’t undo what I did” and that people follow me around and will see what I’m doing and then think it’s okay to do. That might be true. But what you have repeatedly failed to point out is that there was not enough time for that to even happen. You are lecturing me about a non-event.
I am hoping that knowing the consequences of your actions will help you make better decisions in the future. I am trying to hold you to your own community’s rule of “Just don’t let it make you forget that the person you are talking to is also a person.”
No. You are not. You are actively stirring up nonsense and causing drama. The comment was deleted months ago. The comment was on an unrelated community. The comment was before the rules were ever in existence. You are trying to hold the past accountable to rules from the present. You are acting as if I have done it today. You are trying to lecture me on my behavior as a moderator for private comments that were made months before I was ever appointed a moderator to any community anywhere. If I had done that as a mod, you would have a point. But I didn’t. That would be if any of your points were valid in the first place. The only foot you have is that I insulted you and that was a dick thing for me to do. This is true and why I deleted. But every one of your other complaints is based off of a false assumption that not just the community as a whole saw it and thought it was fine but that I also didn’t care. Both are untrue.
You want a chance to right your wrong? Here is your chance. Don’t try to excuse yourself or pass the blame. Just simply acknowledge what you did, apologize, and try to do better in the future.
I did. You want it again? I am sorry that I made that comment that insulted you personally. I felt like a dick and that is why I deleted the comment. It wasn’t right of me to do and I shouldn’t have done it. I am sorry you felt that way and it’s something I’ve been striving to not do in the months since.
I have nothing else to apologize for when it comes to my behavior surrounding you.
If you see dogpiling, step in and say something.
If it is in a community that I moderate? Absolutely. Which I do. But you don’t get to lecture me and tell me what to do as an individual. I might step in. I might not. That’s my decision to make, not yours. I am not a public servant who answers to the people. I am a person. If you disagree with me, downvote me. If you don’t like me, block me. But you do not get to stand on a pedestal and dictate how I will act.
I am not engaging with you further. If you have any moderation concerns, feel free to message one of the other moderators. If you have any concerns about my behavior, report it to the moderators of that community.
Wow. Okay. I think like you read a lot of negative tone into my comment that wasn’t there so I’m going to explicitly say here and now that my tone is polite and casual. I am not trying to be accusatory.
It’s not semantics in this case. Due to there being many different instances with many different admins, I felt that it was important to distinguish. Not for you specifically but in general.
Because you have not said anything about this for 4 months and have suddenly brought it up out of nowhere.
No. It was not. This is proven in the screenshot you yourself posted as the person below me is responding to the exact same comment. My tone is now starting to change from friendly to cautious because I’m not a huge fan of being lied about, especially when you yourself have posted the proof against your own claim.
That is on me. I misread something.
It doesn’t change my actions. It reflects yours. You haven’t said anything about this for months and made a screenshot immediately of it. You never talked about this to me. You never gave me a chance to apologize. You never addressed to me at all.
No. You made a toxic comment. You made some “joke” that all the cast of SNW were too pretty or too beautiful. It was a backhanded and snarky comment which is why you were called jealous by the person in your screenshot. This is also why I said that you want what you can’t have. As for the ping, I didn’t get one or at least never saw one. But the last thing I would have been interested in doing in that moment would have been doubling down in public. If I got a ping like that I would have sent a private apology. Because I deleted it due to feeling like a dick. Did I think your comment was tasteless, unfunny, and frankly kind of rude? Yeah. But did I feel like a douchebag for being negative towards you? Yes. Thus why it was deleted almost immediately.
That’s on you. The tone of my comment was not intended the way that you clearly took it. For that I also apologize in being unclear. But I am not trying to be angry or hostile or bitter here. Just genuinely saying that I am sorry, that I didn’t know you were upset, and that I can’t apologize for something I didn’t know was a thing.
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Because that was the opening of your message. I responded to your comment piece by piece, exactly as you did to me immediately after. Like I said, you assumed my tone and then acted off of that instead of asking for clarification.
The comment was deleted within 5 minutes, something that you are repeatedly ignoring and failing to leave out. Your entire lecture is predicated off of the assumption that the comment was left up long enough for a large number of people to see it which is just not true. It was deleted within 5 minutes. Pretty much the only people to see it were you and maybe 5 other people. You have shown that comment to more people than ever originally saw it when it was posted. You are giving more creedence and giving it more power than I ever did. You keep insisting and acting that I have “all this weight” and that it “won’t undo what I did” and that people follow me around and will see what I’m doing and then think it’s okay to do. That might be true. But what you have repeatedly failed to point out is that there was not enough time for that to even happen. You are lecturing me about a non-event.
No. You are not. You are actively stirring up nonsense and causing drama. The comment was deleted months ago. The comment was on an unrelated community. The comment was before the rules were ever in existence. You are trying to hold the past accountable to rules from the present. You are acting as if I have done it today. You are trying to lecture me on my behavior as a moderator for private comments that were made months before I was ever appointed a moderator to any community anywhere. If I had done that as a mod, you would have a point. But I didn’t. That would be if any of your points were valid in the first place. The only foot you have is that I insulted you and that was a dick thing for me to do. This is true and why I deleted. But every one of your other complaints is based off of a false assumption that not just the community as a whole saw it and thought it was fine but that I also didn’t care. Both are untrue.
I did. You want it again? I am sorry that I made that comment that insulted you personally. I felt like a dick and that is why I deleted the comment. It wasn’t right of me to do and I shouldn’t have done it. I am sorry you felt that way and it’s something I’ve been striving to not do in the months since.
I have nothing else to apologize for when it comes to my behavior surrounding you.
If it is in a community that I moderate? Absolutely. Which I do. But you don’t get to lecture me and tell me what to do as an individual. I might step in. I might not. That’s my decision to make, not yours. I am not a public servant who answers to the people. I am a person. If you disagree with me, downvote me. If you don’t like me, block me. But you do not get to stand on a pedestal and dictate how I will act.
I am not engaging with you further. If you have any moderation concerns, feel free to message one of the other moderators. If you have any concerns about my behavior, report it to the moderators of that community.
I am done listening to you.
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You have made your point. I see no reason to continue engaging.
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