• Sybil
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    910 months ago

    communism is a classless stateless moneyless society. is that how you’d describe any of those societies? i wouldn’t. because it’s not true. but there are certainly anarchist and communist societies that have existed.

    • mommykink
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      110 months ago

      Do you consider America a capitalist society?

      • Sybil
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        110 months ago

        say what you mean.

        • mommykink
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          10 months ago

          Capitalism is also a stateless economic philosophy, and like communism, is completely incompatible with modern politics (for better or worse, your choice). The argument that the Soviet Union, China, etc. weren’t real Communism because they didn’t meet some make-believe qualifications is pointlessly redundant when those states were very proud to call themselves Communists. In other words, their existence retroactively changed the working definition of what a Communist state is by virtue of being the only realized state to call themselves such.

          • Sybil
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            110 months ago

            The argument that the Soviet Union, China, etc. weren’t real Communism because they didn’t meet some make-believe qualifications is pointlessly redundant when those states were very proud to call themselves Communists.

            if i call myself the queen of england, it doesn’t make it so. communism has a definition and it is impossible for a state to be communist since communism is stateless.

          • Sybil
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            110 months ago

            Capitalism is also a stateless economic philosophy,

            no, it’s not. the term is coined by marx in reference to a system of production in which the ownership of the means of production is held by a capitalist class by means of private property claims. private property claims necessarily depend on a state to do things like write deeds and enforce them. whoever told you otherwise is lying.