• Sybil
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    110 months ago

    if Trump wins, it will be your fault

    the only people responsible for electing trump are those who vote for him. i’m not doing that, so it can’t be my fault.

    • @Donkter
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      1210 months ago

      If there are 10 people including you and the majority chooses who gets to be president and the vote ends up as 5 for Biden (including you) and 5 for Trump. Then the vote gets recast and the only thing that changes is that you decided not to vote for Biden, it would be 5/4 for Trump and the person responsible for electing Trump would be everyone who voted for him and you. If you had voted against Trump instead of abstaining, he would not have become president.

      That’s a very basic concept and it’s clear that it extrapolates to the actual election.

      • Sybil
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        -110 months ago

        voting for a bad person is bad.

          • Sybil
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            110 months ago

            not according to kant.

              • Sybil
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                -310 months ago

                Removed by mod

                • Femsoup [She/Her]
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                  10 months ago

                  Woah there, hold your argumentum ad populum! No ethics model is unflawed and just because deontological ethics work often doesn’t mean they don’t have problems. Instead of looking at the actions you can take, let’s look at the results that could be reached:

                  1. Biden wins presidency
                  2. Trump wins presidency
                  3. 3rd party wins presidency

                  No 3rd party has ever achieved presidency. Votes for a 3rd party have instead commonly resulted in votes being drawn from one party benefiting the other. So realistically we could generalise to:

                  1. Voting 3rd party: Aiding Trumps victory
                  2. Voting Trump: Aiding Trumps victory
                  3. Voting Biden: Aiding Trumps loss

                  I hate dichotomies as much as you, these shouldn’t be the options, I would seriously love to be proven wrong. Am I missing something?

    • @[email protected]
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      910 months ago

      Not voting for the only person who stands a chance against him is helping him win. The distinction is meaningless. If we’re playing CoD Zombies and you don’t help barricade the house we’re in or shoot zombies and we lose on the second round, you don’t get to say “it’s not my fault we died, the zombies were the ones who broke in and killed us!”