• @Donkter
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    1210 months ago

    If there are 10 people including you and the majority chooses who gets to be president and the vote ends up as 5 for Biden (including you) and 5 for Trump. Then the vote gets recast and the only thing that changes is that you decided not to vote for Biden, it would be 5/4 for Trump and the person responsible for electing Trump would be everyone who voted for him and you. If you had voted against Trump instead of abstaining, he would not have become president.

    That’s a very basic concept and it’s clear that it extrapolates to the actual election.

    • Sybil
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      -110 months ago

      voting for a bad person is bad.

        • Sybil
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          110 months ago

          not according to kant.

            • Sybil
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              -310 months ago

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              • Femsoup [She/Her]
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                10 months ago

                Woah there, hold your argumentum ad populum! No ethics model is unflawed and just because deontological ethics work often doesn’t mean they don’t have problems. Instead of looking at the actions you can take, let’s look at the results that could be reached:

                1. Biden wins presidency
                2. Trump wins presidency
                3. 3rd party wins presidency

                No 3rd party has ever achieved presidency. Votes for a 3rd party have instead commonly resulted in votes being drawn from one party benefiting the other. So realistically we could generalise to:

                1. Voting 3rd party: Aiding Trumps victory
                2. Voting Trump: Aiding Trumps victory
                3. Voting Biden: Aiding Trumps loss

                I hate dichotomies as much as you, these shouldn’t be the options, I would seriously love to be proven wrong. Am I missing something?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    110 months ago

                    this kind of paranoid bad-jacketing of users is fucking disgusting. accusing users of being part of a state-sponsored psyop should be bannable across every community and instance. come with receipts, or keep your badfaith bullshit to yourself.

                • Sybil
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                  -110 months ago

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                • Sybil
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                  • Femsoup [She/Her]
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                    510 months ago

                    I did consider this, I even adressed how this is an issue as it fails to aids Trump in winning the election. I do think that Biden is problematic and that the genocide in Palestine is wrong, however voting a 3rd party aids trump resulting in no changes in Palestine and changes for the worse for the rest of the world.