I’ve been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can’t believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C’mon guys
And I don’t think I should have to remind y’all that while neither candidate has a good outlook on Palestine… at least one won’t end democracy in the US.
Dunno, looks like there’s more than 2 candidates to me
No there really isn’t, not the way US politics work.
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Strange. So you’re only allowed to vote for one candidate or Democracy ends?
when the other candidate incites an attempted insurrection, engaged in election interference multiple times, and has proven multiple times that his goal is to strip his enemies of their rights, and is one of the loudest voices behind republican politicians and their bills which have already been passed in many states that take away basic human rights from the population, yeah pretty much
you gotta remember that he’s effectively trying to be another reagan, and reagan effectively disentigrated all of the progress america made, sent worker’s rights back a century, and removed what little semblance of choice we had in politics
Create a pledge to vote for a leftist candidate. If it surpasses ~85 million signatures, everyone who signed it will vote for the leftist candidate. Otherwise, they will all vote for Biden, since a minimum of 85 million votes are required to guarantee an election win.
I’d sign that shit, and I bet just about every leftist around here would, too. There’s literally no downside.
It is immensely difficult to get 85 people to agree to do something—never mind 85 million—but still not impossible. You almost definitely won’t be able to get 85 million signatures, but you’re more than welcome to try. If you don’t succeed, however, I encourage you to consider the realm of possibility when filling out your ballot. Voting for a third-party candidate and voting for Mickey Mouse—or a dead guy, or Vermin Supreme, or yourself—are equally irrelevant if the third-party candidate does not stand a chance of winning.
How is trump going to end democracy?
Dude he’s all but said that he wants to be a dictator
He made a joke and it was taken as a real thing. What were the two things he said he was going to do?
I think the big thing for me was when he lost in 2020 and refused to admit it then proceeded to insight an insurrection. Now he is gaslighting everyone trying to say they are good people and it didn’t happen like we watched live on tv.
What’s up with you? Why don’t you see that he’s just a big sore loser grasping for power so he can stay out of prison. Why would you defend him?
I ask because I’m from GA. One of the places where he tried to throw out our votes and substitute ones for him. I specifically voted against trump as many did because I was sick of his poor response to the pandemic. At the time we couldn’t even leave our house. Shit was crazy when he was in charge. I specifically wanted him out. I’m still waiting to see if he gets punished for his crime against me and the voters of my county. I feel lucky that the leaders in my state didn’t go along with him but I fear that they may in the future.
I get the sense that you see this as your side vs mine but it’s gotten a little more out of hand than that so please pay attention to “your side”
I dont like trump, but there is no evidence he is going to be a dictator. If I had to pick between him and Biden, I would definetly pick trump because Biden is 10x more dangerous to democracy than Trump. The issue is the narrative that was told people believe. Like the narrative about the GA votes, if you read the narrative, it seems that he is talking about bad votes, not just votes.
So what’s the evidence that Biden is dangerous for democracy? How?
Why is what I believe a narrative and what you believe is true? Although what you are saying is harder to believe given the things trump has already done in the past.
Joe Biden is the president now and democracy is fine. The only thing that could ruin democracy if he wins is if Trump lies about winning again and tries to plan another riot.
Also what he says are “bad votes” were just votes against him. Of course he thinks they are bad if they make him lose lol. Why would you believe him but if Joe Biden said the same thing you wouldn’t?
The votes his was referring to he claims were fraudulent. I am not saying I agree they were fraudulent, I am just telling you that I have seen no evidence that he was trying to flop votes.
He is the threat to democracy by staying silent throughout the justice departments russian inquiry into trump, his dictatorial executive orders by trying semi-force vaccinations and loan forgiveness, his lack of action or comment when the main candidate is being attacked by states and the federal government, and his overall rhetoric about how trump and his supporters will end everything. And that doesnt even get into the fundemental risk he has put the whole world in with how he and the rest of the government has put us in with Ukraine.
I have never heard of a dictator trying to forgive student loans lol
I don’t want an American president that jokes about being a dictator for one day.
Decent candidates for the presidency and leader of the free world don’t joke about wanting to be a dictator.
Besides, when Trump tells you he wants to be a dictator he is not joking.
Trump covets the power Putin and Xi has.
So you would pick a incompetetent president over one that makes jokes you dont like?
As I said, trump isn’t joking about wanting to be a dictator.
So yeah, I’m going to support whoever isn’t a literal fascist.
What evidence do you have he wants to be a dictator?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
That he said he wants to be a dictator.
And no, I don’t think he is joking when he says this.
I will say this: the United States is in a pre-dictator era.
No one notices the slide into authoritarianism it until it’s too late.
That makes sense, but how does trump meet those preconditions more than everyone else?
As I said, no one notices slide into authoritarianism until it’s too late.
We are willing to give up our rights increment by increment.
We’re like frogs in simmering water. We don’t jump out unless the water is boiling from the beginning.
I probably agree, but how does this apply to trump?
If you have been living under a rock in the past 8 years, you have a lot of catching up to do.
And I don’t even religiously follow the news on Trump.
Gotcha that is the problem, you have been listening to the corporate news. I would recommend diversifying who you listen to.
Right, mainstream news lied that Trump did not incite revolt to overturn elections, or never said he will be “dictator in day one only”. Sure, you’d rather listen to Alex Jones, a more reliable news source than listening to Trump’s own words.
Looking at your responses to others, I knew you’re not living under a rock, you are a Trump supporter sealioning and pretending not to be one.
Trump is a full fledged fascist, and you’re a fascist too. The sooner you deal with it, the sooner you could get help. It’s not too late.