I never understand why in 2024 you’d buy nvidia, unless you like paying more for less, or buying from scalpers for even more money. I guess some people really just go “More money spent on it, more better” no matter what.
People just think “gaming?? OH NO I NEED MY NVIDIA!!!” while AMD is sitting there like “hey. Hey I have a card that’ll work. Hey. Card. Right here. Works better in Linux. Less headaches. Hello. Hey person. Card. Hi.”
A 1070 is hardly a card anyone would buy in 2024. Maybe they were running Windows before that and didn’t care that much.
Also, hard to believe, but for a long while nVidia actually gave you the better experience on Linux. Before AMD had bought ATI. And probably a good while after the sale. The ATI drivers sucked ass.
Well yes and no. There is proprietary software that uses CUDA but there also is other AI software that optionally uses CUDA. Usually there is a free software built version
I think the first one can be circumvented by just using a DP->HDMI adapter. But yeah, those other points are why I’m a bit hesitant about swapping to AMD myself.
NVIDIA still have the best performing cards if you care about ray tracing. I honestly think that’s the only reason to consider buying NVIDIA but you pay a heck of a premium for that.
Blender Cycles on Linux does not work with an AMD GPU. Updating either the kernel or ROCm has a 50-50 chance of completely breaking Cycles. By comparison, I had zero issues with Cycles, either CUDA or OptiX, on my 2060. OptiX is also a better denoiser that runs on the GPU, while AMD only has OpenImage that runs on the CPU (GPU support is questionable at this point).
Well on Windows I had a lot of problems with AMD drivers. Nvidia also basically owns the high end of the market (4080, 4090). They’re better at video rendering (CUDA). Better at Ray Tracing. Usually more efficient (using less power) on desktop cards. DLSS is better than FSR. And they come with some neat software.
But yeah, if you’re getting even a mid-high card like a 4070, AMD has the price-performance and of course far fewer issues on Linux.
I never understand why in 2024 you’d buy nvidia, unless you like paying more for less, or buying from scalpers for even more money. I guess some people really just go “More money spent on it, more better” no matter what.
People just think “gaming?? OH NO I NEED MY NVIDIA!!!” while AMD is sitting there like “hey. Hey I have a card that’ll work. Hey. Card. Right here. Works better in Linux. Less headaches. Hello. Hey person. Card. Hi.”
Only if you consider ray tracing to be a gimmik (which it is) then AMD is the obvious way to go.
In reality It’s because people bought their laptops and their Desktops before switching and want to Use their already existing graphic cards.
This is a very good point, I forgot gaming laptops are almost exclusively nvidia
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Need cuda.
Haven’t tried it, but might be worth looking into: https://github.com/vosen/ZLUDA
Rocm might be worth looking into
Tell it to the people making the software I use. I’d switch immediately if they would support anything but Cuda and Optix.
I ran into issues with rocm support it does suck,
Zluda looked promising but reading news it would seem nvidia is actively trying to ban it
A 1070 is hardly a card anyone would buy in 2024. Maybe they were running Windows before that and didn’t care that much.
Also, hard to believe, but for a long while nVidia actually gave you the better experience on Linux. Before AMD had bought ATI. And probably a good while after the sale. The ATI drivers sucked ass.
I’d like to buy AMD, but I have all these use cases
AMD has HIP or Rocm, which unlike CUDA is free software. Any program that uses proprietary CUDA libraries is proprietary.
Well yes and no. There is proprietary software that uses CUDA but there also is other AI software that optionally uses CUDA. Usually there is a free software built version
I think the first one can be circumvented by just using a DP->HDMI adapter. But yeah, those other points are why I’m a bit hesitant about swapping to AMD myself.
Because the features are better. That’s why most FPS comparisons of AMD and Nvidia always turn off the ray tracing.
NVIDIA still have the best performing cards if you care about ray tracing. I honestly think that’s the only reason to consider buying NVIDIA but you pay a heck of a premium for that.
Blender Cycles on Linux does not work with an AMD GPU. Updating either the kernel or ROCm has a 50-50 chance of completely breaking Cycles. By comparison, I had zero issues with Cycles, either CUDA or OptiX, on my 2060. OptiX is also a better denoiser that runs on the GPU, while AMD only has OpenImage that runs on the CPU (GPU support is questionable at this point).
That sucks, but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t work. I’m on Debian stable and it works fine for me, except for weird crashes from time to time.
Well on Windows I had a lot of problems with AMD drivers. Nvidia also basically owns the high end of the market (4080, 4090). They’re better at video rendering (CUDA). Better at Ray Tracing. Usually more efficient (using less power) on desktop cards. DLSS is better than FSR. And they come with some neat software.
But yeah, if you’re getting even a mid-high card like a 4070, AMD has the price-performance and of course far fewer issues on Linux.