Do you think it’s appropriate to run around with fireworks in the middle of an armed conflict?
Especially if it’s what you idealistic, online types say and it’s a “genocide” and an “apartheid state”, do you really see any other way this would end?
Who said that? There is no room for a nuance discussion?
I didn’t watch the video, but based on the text it sure seems like the kid made choices that a reasonable person could think were incredibly risky given the circumstances.
Pointing that out does not mean that you think it was reasonable to shoot him; just that you think it is unsurprising.
This was in the west bank. Not Gaza. You should have watched the video. It would have been wrong still but more understandable for this to have happened in Gaza. Where Israel’s active terror campaign is currently in motion. But this was in the West Bank where Israel is still employing stochastic terrorist tactics.
This would be like saying it was understandable and excusable for police to come shoot and kill you on your doorstep for setting off a firework. Wherever you live.
This exactly. But no, asshats don’t think. Just react. Sad thing is, they don’t even know what they are reacting to. None of them even went to Israel, even fewer went to Gaza and most likely almost all of them never was involved in any other conflict that argument over who gets the toy from box of serial.
there’s a term for people who think this way and it’s bootlicker. These fascist apologists line up to victim blame and tell people they’re protesting wrong and gaslight you into believing an offensive occupation can justifiably murder a child. These are liberals, they call themselves Democrats and feel good that they’re not Republicans but they’re all the same. They’re fascists and fascist enablers. Where is the left? We need to do something about all of this.
So here’s a challenge for the non-fucking clown. Take the fireworks, got into the police station and set fire to it. See how that goes for you. Shithead.
Wow, cool comparison. Now what would happen if you were at home and the police entered your property and you set off a firework? Would you expect to be gunned down in your home? Because that’s what IDF is doing to Palestinians. The whole country was their home, then they got relegated to Gaza, which is now their new home, currently being invaded and attacked by fascists.
Don’t bother feeding this moron. He’s not going to suddenly wake up to the realization he’s an ignorant cunt. Look at his post history. He’s a troll or an idiot or both.
If police came armed in my house, I certainly wouldn’t point anything at them. Yes, I’d fully expect to be gunned down if someone is pointing a gun at me and I pulled something on them. Just look at all the police cam videos where people get gunned down for simplest of things. Sure police is not in the right, no one argued they were, but it’s a stupid thing to point anything at armed people who are afraid of dying.
And no, there was no “whole country was their home”. They had no country. They rejected that solution.
Partition and later the Two-State Solution have been wielded by Israel to covet and annex as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.
Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.
After the founding of Israel, the Two-State Solutions were utilized to further annex the Palestinian Occupied Territories and enact military control over Palestinians while denying them human and civil rights. Despite this, both Fatah and later Hamas have accepted a Two-State Solution on the 1967 borders, with the two most important factors being the Right of Return of Palestinian refugees and an end to the permanent occupation.
Regardless, it’s a stupid thing to do. Am sorry for the loss of life, but I didn’t expect anything else to happen. Go during any protest and do the same, in any country. And see how the police reacts. You’ll be the first target for water cannon or batons. Idea of having potentially hazardous thing pointed at you makes them a priority target. Simple as that.
why does protesting, which is essentially just saying “I don’t like thing” justify immediate violent summary execution of a child? You can’t get any more twirly mustasche bad guy than that.
Fuck off. When the troubles where on in northern Ireland the Brits and the ruc weren’t shooting up prods when setting off fireworks and bonfires on the twelfth. But they targeted Catholics using whatever excuse they could think off. Israels doing the same shit, any excuse to kill people seen as less human.
If you think it’s okay for your kid to go to military, during conflict and fire fireworks at them or close to them, then you are shit parent. And no, what am saying is not complete shit, it’s just pure logic. People are dying by the thousands and you think “let’s poke it with a stick” is a reasonable action?
Nope. Used it in original context… that is of lacking intelligence. But sure, you do you. Fight some more battles over which words offend and which don’t without realizing it’s the meaning behind the word that matters, not the sound it makes.
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You watch the video? He held it above his own head towards the sky.
Course the fucking clown didn’t watch the video. Guy has no understanding of sectarian violence and apartheid at all.
Do you think it’s appropriate to run around with fireworks in the middle of an armed conflict?
Especially if it’s what you idealistic, online types say and it’s a “genocide” and an “apartheid state”, do you really see any other way this would end?
It’s in the west bank not in Gaza. These IDF terrorists are there illegally to begin with.
Do you think it’s appropriate to be in medical facilities to treat your wounds in the middle of an armed conflict?
That gets people shot in Gaza now too.
As well as the West Bank
Why are you ok with anyone shooting kids?
Who said that? There is no room for a nuance discussion?
I didn’t watch the video, but based on the text it sure seems like the kid made choices that a reasonable person could think were incredibly risky given the circumstances.
Pointing that out does not mean that you think it was reasonable to shoot him; just that you think it is unsurprising.
We know.
This was in the west bank. Not Gaza. You should have watched the video. It would have been wrong still but more understandable for this to have happened in Gaza. Where Israel’s active terror campaign is currently in motion. But this was in the West Bank where Israel is still employing stochastic terrorist tactics.
This would be like saying it was understandable and excusable for police to come shoot and kill you on your doorstep for setting off a firework. Wherever you live.
This exactly. But no, asshats don’t think. Just react. Sad thing is, they don’t even know what they are reacting to. None of them even went to Israel, even fewer went to Gaza and most likely almost all of them never was involved in any other conflict that argument over who gets the toy from box of serial.
Those poor Israelis are just defending themselves by invading Gaza and murdering Gazans by the tens of thousands!
Wasn’t Israelis who invaded first.
there’s a term for people who think this way and it’s bootlicker. These fascist apologists line up to victim blame and tell people they’re protesting wrong and gaslight you into believing an offensive occupation can justifiably murder a child. These are liberals, they call themselves Democrats and feel good that they’re not Republicans but they’re all the same. They’re fascists and fascist enablers. Where is the left? We need to do something about all of this.
This user is almost self aware…
Tell me you know literally nothing about the Palestinian conflict without telling me you know literally nothing about the Palestinian conflict.
If a 12 year old child cannot play with fireworks, it’s an apartheid state.
I think you have to be 18 to buy fireworks in most places in the US…
So here’s a challenge for the non-fucking clown. Take the fireworks, got into the police station and set fire to it. See how that goes for you. Shithead.
Wow, cool comparison. Now what would happen if you were at home and the police entered your property and you set off a firework? Would you expect to be gunned down in your home? Because that’s what IDF is doing to Palestinians. The whole country was their home, then they got relegated to Gaza, which is now their new home, currently being invaded and attacked by fascists.
Don’t bother feeding this moron. He’s not going to suddenly wake up to the realization he’s an ignorant cunt. Look at his post history. He’s a troll or an idiot or both.
This happened in the West Bank.
No Hamas to blame for the IDF.
If police came armed in my house, I certainly wouldn’t point anything at them. Yes, I’d fully expect to be gunned down if someone is pointing a gun at me and I pulled something on them. Just look at all the police cam videos where people get gunned down for simplest of things. Sure police is not in the right, no one argued they were, but it’s a stupid thing to point anything at armed people who are afraid of dying.
And no, there was no “whole country was their home”. They had no country. They rejected that solution.
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Partition and later the Two-State Solution have been wielded by Israel to covet and annex as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.
Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
Arab Higher Committee advocating for Unified State 1937
Arab League advocating for Unified Binational State 1948
After the founding of Israel, the Two-State Solutions were utilized to further annex the Palestinian Occupied Territories and enact military control over Palestinians while denying them human and civil rights. Despite this, both Fatah and later Hamas have accepted a Two-State Solution on the 1967 borders, with the two most important factors being the Right of Return of Palestinian refugees and an end to the permanent occupation.
Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
History of peace process
I saw the video, he was firing fireworks towards what looked like a fenced border wall, likely manned with soldiers.
Should that fence and other shit be there? Probably not.
Should you be shooting fireworks at armed fortifications during an invasion? Definitely not.
That kid resisted the invasion with the tools he had, he fought and lost.
Regardless, it’s a stupid thing to do. Am sorry for the loss of life, but I didn’t expect anything else to happen. Go during any protest and do the same, in any country. And see how the police reacts. You’ll be the first target for water cannon or batons. Idea of having potentially hazardous thing pointed at you makes them a priority target. Simple as that.
Given your participation on this thread, I doubt that.
That’s your right. But your doubt means nothing, especially doesn’t mean I rejoice every time number of civilians die.
If you say so.
Lmao talk about scratching a liberal
why does protesting, which is essentially just saying “I don’t like thing” justify immediate violent summary execution of a child? You can’t get any more twirly mustasche bad guy than that.
“Rami Hamdan Al-Halhouli, 12, holds a firework aloft moments before being shot by Israeli police.”
That’s clearly a life threatening nuclear ballistic missile that can flatten Tel Aviv six times over
Lighting that firework is 0.8 times the 9/11 !
Ah yes, the hand held rocket that flies from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv.
They just love any excuse to shoot kids.
Fuck off. When the troubles where on in northern Ireland the Brits and the ruc weren’t shooting up prods when setting off fireworks and bonfires on the twelfth. But they targeted Catholics using whatever excuse they could think off. Israels doing the same shit, any excuse to kill people seen as less human.
I hope it never happens to your kid. I’m not saying you’re a psychopath, but what you’re saying is complete shit
If you think it’s okay for your kid to go to military, during conflict and fire fireworks at them or close to them, then you are shit parent. And no, what am saying is not complete shit, it’s just pure logic. People are dying by the thousands and you think “let’s poke it with a stick” is a reasonable action?
Tell me, what conflict is there in Jerusalem? This is not Gaza. It’s 100km away.
The only conflict that exist in Jerusalem is the apartheid state of Zionist Israel.
Wrong. Gaza is 80 km, or 49 miles from Jerusalem. Don’t make shit up.
The northern check point is 87km away from Jerusalem by car.
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Slurs are welcome on lemmy as long as we’re talking about people that conservative Democrats want dead.
Nope. Used it in original context… that is of lacking intelligence. But sure, you do you. Fight some more battles over which words offend and which don’t without realizing it’s the meaning behind the word that matters, not the sound it makes.
Uh huh. Don’t insult me by expecting me to buy that shit.