• unalivejoy
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    818 months ago

    The state infringes on your liberty every time it lets a corporation infringe on your liberty.

    • zea
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      378 months ago

      Like, do people understand that entities that aren’t the state can harm them?

      • @TotallynotJessica
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        178 months ago

        They think it’s a necessary cost of avoiding government oppression. They have some delusion that they’re somehow mutually exclusive. They never consider: ¿Porque no los dos?

        • @[email protected]
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          68 months ago

          Depends on the person and the type. I’ve never met a libertarian that didn’t at least pay lip service to regulatory capture and corporate rent seeking. They just don’t follow those base ideas to the end point much of the time.

          • AggressivelyPassive
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            138 months ago

            They often enough blame these problems on the state. Like we aren’t capitalisming hard enough and if only the last remnants of regulation will fall, the shining light of free market economy will make everyone happier.

            • @[email protected]
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              48 months ago

              They fundamentally think that state power is (to varying extents) unethical. They also think human interaction should be voluntary (for the |ost part). It’s awkward to think that people deserve to live and trade without interference and not think a group of people should be able to if they want.

              Lots of people conflate capitalism, voluntary interaction, and whatever the fuck we have going on now. I won’t get started on how fucked most people’s view of (proper) left ideologies are.

              So we line up, use proprietary language, and throw rocks at each other while shouting absurdly reductionist slogans.

              • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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                38 months ago

                David Graeber’s book “Debt: The First 5,000 Years” really opened my eyes to the huge variety of economic systems that have existed. There’s so many other ways we could be living.

      • @Zron
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        28 months ago

        You grossly overestimate the intelligence of libertarians.