The problem wasn’t that I was too good for the classes, these were junior and senior level engineering courses, I’d be concerned if someone could test out of shit like that. The problem was on the other end. Group projects are huge parts of the grade, the group consists of 2-4 people who are graded together on a project that regardless of how you cut it up and make people turn in steps still has deadlines that assume weeks of work for multiple people, and some people are fucking idiots or lazy or whatever else. And group projects are important to engineering. Unless you wind up in some backwater factory you’re going to be doing group projects for the majority of your career.
Sounds like every one of my group projects, and I majored in Comp Sci and Music Ed, minor in Psych and Physics. Thankfully I didn’t have to do a single group project in Nuclear Power School.
Some of those psych majors couldn’t design an ethical experiment even with multiple textbooks explaining what ethics are.
Yeah I really wanted to do sexology research but wound up siding with engineering for a variety of reasons including money, time, employment odds, and the fact that engineering students were somehow more bearable than psych students.
I actually wound up doing human psychological experimentation as my engineering capstone (turns out a lot of engineering problems exist when people and machines attempt to communicate with each other) and it scares me to think about how bad psych students could’ve fucked up what we did. My idiots were able to be effectively corralled and kept away from the experimental design, IRB applications, and data analysis.
Oh we weren’t allowed to actually do the experiments we designed. That may have changed in the 400 levels of classes, I dunno. Didn’t get that far. These were thought experiments to train us on how to design an experiment that involves animals or people. Funny how we didn’t worry about plants or fungi now that I think about it.
F. hope letting people “test out” of classes becomes more of a thing so this pattern doesn’t happen as much
The problem wasn’t that I was too good for the classes, these were junior and senior level engineering courses, I’d be concerned if someone could test out of shit like that. The problem was on the other end. Group projects are huge parts of the grade, the group consists of 2-4 people who are graded together on a project that regardless of how you cut it up and make people turn in steps still has deadlines that assume weeks of work for multiple people, and some people are fucking idiots or lazy or whatever else. And group projects are important to engineering. Unless you wind up in some backwater factory you’re going to be doing group projects for the majority of your career.
Sounds like every one of my group projects, and I majored in Comp Sci and Music Ed, minor in Psych and Physics. Thankfully I didn’t have to do a single group project in Nuclear Power School.
Some of those psych majors couldn’t design an ethical experiment even with multiple textbooks explaining what ethics are.
Yeah I really wanted to do sexology research but wound up siding with engineering for a variety of reasons including money, time, employment odds, and the fact that engineering students were somehow more bearable than psych students.
I actually wound up doing human psychological experimentation as my engineering capstone (turns out a lot of engineering problems exist when people and machines attempt to communicate with each other) and it scares me to think about how bad psych students could’ve fucked up what we did. My idiots were able to be effectively corralled and kept away from the experimental design, IRB applications, and data analysis.
Oh we weren’t allowed to actually do the experiments we designed. That may have changed in the 400 levels of classes, I dunno. Didn’t get that far. These were thought experiments to train us on how to design an experiment that involves animals or people. Funny how we didn’t worry about plants or fungi now that I think about it.