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WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.
Israel has had a permanent occupation of the Occupied Palestinian Territories since 1967, maintaining an apartheid state through direct and indirect violence.
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation.
What Is Hamas? - Council on Foreign Relations
What Does Hamas Actually Want? - NY Mag
Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
Hamas Election - Snopes
Hamas 1988 Charter and Revised 2017 Charter
The 1988 Charter, which is certainly unreasonable in its fundamentalism with Sharia Law and is antisemitic, does not call for the extermination of all Jewish People. The 2017 Revised charter accepts a Two-State Solution of the 1967 Borders. Check Article 7 and 13 of the 1988 Charter to see yourself, compare it to Article 20 and 24-26 in the revised charter
you are aware,despite their charter saying what is it they represent and do,the reality is they do what they have always wanted,genocide,from the river to the sea,even that statement remains in their 2017 revised charter.
i had to go read through your links,while some does provide insights to the conflict, i get the nagging feeling here you are trying to villify israel while painting hamas as a victim of circumstances. this is a typical propaganda tactic employed by…hamas and their supporters (surprising,i know).
if you find israel’s punishment of innocent palestians for hama’s actions indiscriminate,maybe trying calling out hamas for their indiscriminate terror attacks on israel.
an eye for an eye makes the world go blind,israel isn’t the good guys here and neither is hamas.
The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state. You’re thinking of the Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966.
Before 1948, Palestinian Leadership repeatedly advocated for a Unitary Binational State for decades.
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
Arab Higher Committee advocating for Unified State 1937
Arab League advocating for Unified Binational State 1948
Partition and later the Peace Process, like the Oslo Accords, have been wielded by Israel to annex and divide as much Palestinian land as possible with the least amount of Palestinians.
Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
All members of Hamas and other militant groups who have committed war crimes need to be tried on an international court, the same as all the Israeli officials that have. Palestinians need liberation and to have democratically elected representatives.
we have an consensus,those who are responsible for the war crime needs to be tried and palestinians have a right to exist as israel.
what i can see however,hamas is still hell bent on genocide and have publicity announced they will repeat the Oct 7th attacks until israel is no more,a stark contrast to their revised charter.
you can defend hamas all you want,you can claim they want peace but what their actions says,is a lot louder than what their charter does.
Israel is an Apartheid State. Palestinians have lived under the military control of Israel for generations, enforced with daily violence both direct and indirect. For People living under apartheid, liberation is the end of that apartheid state. That means coexistence, you’re the one thinking that means genocide.
don’t white wash hamas atrocities as if they are justified or faultless.
hamas is just as guilty as the hardline israelis,none of them are the heroes they themselves believed to be.you certainly aren’t changing my mind concerning the terrorists that is hamas,no matter how hard you try to paint hamas as the anti-hero.
hamas should be wiped out,the sooner the better so that palestinians can move forward,else this apartheid will never end.
Hamas’ atrocities against civilians are not justified, dude. If you’re against that you should recognize Israel has attacked magnitudes more civilians both before and certainly after Oct 7th, especially women and children.
Understanding the context as to why these attacks happened is not a justification, it’s necessary to understand and recognize the underlying reasons in order to determine an avenue for peace and end the hostilities.
You’re the one justifying Israel’s genocide with that last sentence. Wiping out Hamas has been their justification for targeting and destroying Hospitals, Schools, Refugee Camps, and Aid deliveries. That’s the justification for cutting of all water/electricity/medical supplies on top of an unending bombing campaign that target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Everyone in Gaza is facing Catastrophic risk of Famine, a man-made famine by Israel blocking aid, food, and water, dozens have already died and many more soon will without help.
Hamas has committed war crimes, documented by Human Rights Organizations. That doesn’t change the fact that Israel is responsible for the Settler Colonialism, Ethnic Cleansing, and Apartheid that is the foundation for all this violence. Israel holds all the power to end the conflict, but has instead only increased hostilities with Apartheid State Violence and Settler Violence.
you are right that israel can end hostilities right now if they want to,the same goes to hamas.
the onus here seems to be placed on Israel since they are the ones with superior firepower,as if hamas couldn’t end the hostilities by surrendering.
Bear in mind,hamas has always resorted to terrorist attacks whenever they felt like it,had israel agreed to stop all the aggressions,it will just give hamas breathing space to reorganize and begin another round of Oct 7th terror attack.
hamas handed israel the reason for all these violence on a silver platter and israel is not going let it go that easily.if you want me to condemn israel and hold them accountable, i for one agree with you…AFTER hamas is wiped out.
it’s not genocide to want hamas wiped out,unless you are conflating hamas as palestinians.
No, Hamas can’t end the apartheid and occupation by surrendering. You fundamentally misunderstand the development and continuation of the occupation. You’re also making things up about why Hamas decided to attack instead of learning the actual reasons.
I’ve already given links to learn about the escalation of violence in my first response. Seems like you’d rather believe what you want to.