WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

  • @Keeponstalin
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    09 months ago

    So coexistence to you is occupation? You hand-wave away all the overwhelming evidence of Apartheid and Settler Colonialism.

    The state allows settlers to use land violently taken from Palestinians. Dozens of outposts and “farms” – settlements for all intents and purposes, which were built without authorization by the government and without plans that enable construction in them – receive support from Israeli authorities and remain standing. Israel has ordered the military to defend the outposts or paid for their security, as well as paved roads and laid down water and electricity infrastructure for most of them. It has provided support through various government ministries, the Settlement Division of the World Zionist Organization and regional councils in the West Bank. It has also subsidized financial endeavors in the outposts, including agricultural facilities, provided support for new farmers and for shepherding, allocated water and legally defended outposts in petitions for their removal.

    Violence committed by settlers against Palestinians has been documented since the very early days of the occupation. It is recorded in countless government documents and dossiers, in thousands of testimonies from Palestinians and soldiers, in books, in reports by Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights organizations – including B’Tselem, from its inception – and in thousands of media stories. Yet this ongoing, comprehensive documentation has had almost no effect on settler violence against Palestinians, which has long since become part and parcel of life under the occupation in the West Bank.

    Settler Violence is State Violence and has been intentional.

    • @frostmore
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      09 months ago

      co-existence is accepting the facts that 1 entity has a right to exist just as any other and you do not arbitrary decide how far back in time to determine who stole whose home.

      next, israeli settlers illegally settling in land that does not belong to them is a problem that needs solving,this has been made very clear,your magnification of the violence doesn’t negate that fact other than pushing your bias narratives.

      hamas never stopped declaring their aim to wipe israel from existence, despite their renewed charter.the fancy words they used serve nothing but to hoodwink the less sophisticated.

      if your logic prevails,then prc,timor leste,previous soviet states or even america has no right to exist because they stole,occupy and settled in lands that does not belong to them and the original inhabitants should wage terror attacks on the populance because,you know,these people are stealing lands of their great grand father or however far back in time these terrorists chose.

      it’s sad that you have, on multiple times, try to push your bias agenda and narratives and each time you are only serving to highlight your bias.

      • @Keeponstalin
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        09 months ago

        Israel has never had intentions of coexistence, it was founded on Settler Colonialism… You’re white washing ethnic cleansing.

        • @frostmore
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          09 months ago

          hamas never had any intentions of co-existence only genocide and terrorism.

          you are and have been justifying hamas terrorism and crimes as the aspirations of palestinians,disgusting to say the least.

          • @Keeponstalin
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            9 months ago

            You’re literally wrong. Has Hamas done war crimes? Yes. You don’t need to make things up to not like Hamas. I’ve provided so many resources to learn the history. Instead you’d rather justify settler Colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and collective punishment. When you do that, it’s clear you don’t see Palestinians as human beings.

            • @frostmore
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              09 months ago

              i could say the same to you.

              unlike you,i do not solely focus on one side’s atrocities to paint the other like some kind of victim.

              you are literally a hamas apologist using palestinians to push your agenda for genocide.your resources aren’t exactly neutral to begin with.

                • @frostmore
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                  9 months ago

                  and i am clearly saying there are no good guys in this conflict,no one side has the moral high ground over the other.

                  palestine and israel have the right to exist and to overly focus on the elimination/vilification of one over the other is not going to solve anything let alone your so called ending of genocide or equal rights.

                  • @Keeponstalin
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                    Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing and settler colonialism, directly responsible for the ongoing apartheid, and is currently engaging in genocide.

                    I’m not saying Hamas if good. The majority of Palestinians don’t either. Palestinians deserve a free and fair election to choose their representatives, but that’s not really possible living under a violent apartheid. Israel has prevented any peace solution. Armed militant groups like Hamas are the only ones fighting against the apartheid.

                    This is a war between the occupied and the occupier.

                    To Israel, Palestinians have never had any right to exist, or human rights, or civil rights.

                    I agree with New Historians on a One-State Solution. If you’re genuinely interested in the history of the conflict, you should read their books. They are significantly more detailed than any article and written with a huge amount of sources from both sides of the story.

                    The book ‘A History of Modern Palestine: One Land, Two Peoples’ by Ilan Pappe has a detailed account of the history since the early 1920s

                    How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

                    ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

                    History of peace process

                    One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

                    10 Myths of Israel

                    Palestine and Israel: Mapping an annexation