• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    58 months ago

    Get outta here with this false equivalence. The marginal human suffering inflicted per year caused by Israeli’s colonialism is incomparably greater than any other country’s in the modern era.

    • Lux
      link
      fedilink
      148 months ago

      The US pays Israel to cause suffering

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        38 months ago

        Okay granted. From this perspective, sure, American colonialism is strictly broader than Israel’s. I don’t think this really changes anything about what I’m saying here.

        • @Donkter
          link
          08 months ago

          I mean the only reason you’re technically correct is cause you limited the scope to just the last year. Just cause Israel did it the most recently doesn’t make them incomparable.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            08 months ago

            Even the year before that, it’s still true. Well, depending on what “incomparable” means lol

    • Kbin_space_program
      link
      fedilink
      9
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      China says hi.

      Remember when Apple.moved to India and tried to use the same conditions as their Non-Slave Chinese factories?

      Remember when the Indian workers rioted over that?

      Edit: fucking Google. Doesn’t correct Infia to India, but automatically changes rioted to rooted.

    • ComradeSharkfucker
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -2
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Just because it isn’t overtly genocidal(anymore) doesnt mean the US hasnt done incredible harm to the entire world. What israel is doing right now if horrific yes but the US is responsible for even greater suffering. Neither should exist

      • @Malek061
        link
        -28 months ago

        Really? The data says otherwise. Under american hegemony birth rates are up, life expectancy is up, infant mortality is down, and poverty has fallen across the entire world. Bitch and moan all you want but america has had a massive impact on improving thr world.

        • ComradeSharkfucker
          link
          fedilink
          English
          108 months ago

          I want you to go to an iraqi and tell them that american intervention benefitted them and their nation. Say that to a cambodian, vietnamese, nicaraguan, chilean, cuban, north korean, venezuelan, haitian, balkan, etc. the list goes on. You haven’t had a truly experienced the third world if you havent sat around a fire with sunflower seeds and grumbled about america. When i say that america is worse than israel i am referring to the purposeful bombings of civilians, hospitals, industrial infrastructure, and schools; I am referring to the overthrowing of democratically elected governments, the funding of fascist death squads, and the illegal and immoral sanctions meant to destabilize foreign powers all in the name of profit. Humanitarian aid is meaningless if you are the reason its necessary

          • @Malek061
            link
            08 months ago

            You complain about America yet America contains China and their genocidal Muslim death squads. You bemoan American intervention yet that intervention keeps energy prices stable saving millions of lives getting food dependant on that. You curse America even though it keeps murdering dictators at bay. America has used its power and navy to keep the seas open and trade flowing. You talk about the third world while you sit around a coal fire under provided by the trade America’ protects. Is America perfect? Absolutely not. But it can be much, much worse. If not America, then who? Look how China has been behaving in Africa. Russia seems very reasonable and understanding. America helped end colonialism. Also, thank goodness for America eradicating disease around the world. America led the way eradicating aids, guinea worm, polio, small pox, measles, and TB.

            If you’re going to lob criticism, you need to acknowledge the whole. Global population says American efforts have been a resounding success. A simple thank you would be nice.

            • @Gabu
              link
              18 months ago

              You’re either a troll or your brain is so rotten that you may as well cut off your head, as it’s doing nothing

              • @Malek061
                link
                08 months ago

                Thanks for the ad hominem attack. I’m sorry the facts are against your opinion.

                • @Gabu
                  link
                  18 months ago

                  And I am sorry your family had to deal with your existence

                  • @Malek061
                    link
                    08 months ago

                    That’s all you got? You didn’t bring any counter argument. You just lobbed a half hearted insult. America has made the world a better place and that’s a fact. Now if you could pull your head out of your ass for one minute, you could see that. But as of this moment, it is far up there that if you blinked, you’d tickle the back of your throat and cough out the cum you have been gargling all day at the gloryhole you have been working.

            • davel [he/him]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              08 months ago

              You complain about America yet America contains China and their genocidal Muslim death squads.

              The US’s “Uyghur genocide” disinformation campaign has already been debunked several times over.

              We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

              Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

              The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

              Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

              Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

              Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.


              Look how China has been behaving in Africa.

              Yeah, it’s investing in Africa’s infrastructure, as opposed to exfiltrating its resources like the Global North neocolonialists.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          28 months ago

          During this time of hegemony we’ve also had major developments in medicine, farming, manufacturing worldwide. How can you say the world is better off with US hegemony? There is no control to compare it to. Humanity has improved materially in the last 100 years, in SPITE of American dominance. I would ask the thousands of people killed every year by US munitions if they believe the world has been improved.

          • @Malek061
            link
            18 months ago

            America had a hand in all of that and help the world grow. You complain about american munitions but there has not been large state on state conflicts since ww2. There have been regional wars but nothing like ww1 and ww2. Hundreds of millions die in world wars. Thousands that die due to conflict are a miracle given human history.

        • @Gabu
          link
          18 months ago

          You do realize most of the planet hates 'murica, yeah?

          • @Malek061
            link
            -18 months ago

            I do and it is completely unjustified.

            • @Gabu
              link
              28 months ago

              Maybe stop being a brainwashed useful idiot? That should help.

              • @Malek061
                link
                -18 months ago

                Sorry for all the global prosperity and disease elimination. I guess the world hates that.

                • @Gabu
                  link
                  18 months ago

                  Grow a brain, muritard. The US has destroyed any and all governments that could pose an issue to your economic hegemony. All you bring is death and chaos.