• @[email protected]
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    The only battle we are currently fighting is rich vs poor and we are loosing badly. All the other culture war issues are a farce.

    • @Feathercrown
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      1610 months ago

      Republicans trying to ruin the lives of half the population is not a “farce” and I’m insulted you’d simplify your argument to this level. There can be multiple things happening at once.

      • @AEsheron
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        It’s a farce they put on specifically to distract their base from the war on the poor.

        • @Feathercrown
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          For some republicans in positions of power? Sure. But not for their voter base.

      • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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        You’re missing the fact that all those people are beholden to the rich and powerful and have only done their bidding for the last 80 years.

        Sure, Republicans are fuckin horrible. But they’re this way by the design of the rich who really run things.

        • @Feathercrown
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          810 months ago

          Republicans are horrible because of their core beliefs. That there is not good and bad, but strong and weak. That (paraphrasing a wise internet man here) “there are in-groups that the law must protect but not bind, and out-groups that the law must bind but not protect.” That they’re always right, and that others are always wrong. Rich people use this, but they cannot create it alone.

          • @OccamsRazer
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            110 months ago

            When you say “Republicans”, are you referring to politicians or to the roughly half of the country that votes Republican? Because I kind of agree with your take if it’s regarding politicians, but even then it should apply to all of them. If you are referring to everyone who votes Republican, then you are so far off base that I don’t even know where to start.

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              I’m referring to a large number of both politicians and voters who hold these sentiments, whether consciously or unconsciously. People who vote republican because of habit or whatever instead of ideology don’t count although I do think that’s shortsighted, and there are some republicans who genuinely believe in the fiscal or deregulation sides of things etc.

            • @FreakinSteve
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              If they vote Republican, they condone the violence associated with it. There is no separation between the two.

              • @OccamsRazer
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                Exactly what violence are you referring to?

                • @FreakinSteve
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                  All of it. State violence against the poor and minority groups; corporate violence against the wage-earner; radicalized lone wolf violence against the public.

                  • @OccamsRazer
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                    And you place the blame for all of that on Republicans? What a good little for soldier you are.

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              Right, but I feel like you’re not getting my point here. They couldn’t do that if their supporters didn’t already believe in hurting people.

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                310 months ago

                I get that the billionaires can’t do it alone, but my point is, without the elites the fascist/capitalist base by itself isn’t sufficiently organized or motivated to run an oligarchy.

                The billionaires are the brain of that organism.

              • @OccamsRazer
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                Dude, it’s because your point is stupid and ignorant.

                • @Feathercrown
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                  My point is informed by hundreds of hours of discussion with republican individuals. If you think it’s stupid and ignorant then tell me with a straight face that republicans aren’t more hateful than democrats.

                  • @OccamsRazer
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                    Republicans aren’t more hateful than Democrats. On a macro scale, the political party you most identify with says very little about your capacity to hate “others”. That capacity is instead part of human nature. If you think your party is above that, then you are deluding yourself or are not recognizing hate when it’s directed at the opposition. Either not recognizing it, or justifying it by first vilifying and demonizing the opposition.