Your question gets deflected because it isn’t asked in good faith. (Read: you’re not good at trolling.)
Our comment thread is about you not understanding what a protest is, why people do it, and the societal function it serves.
Your inability to stick to that topic in this thread is yours to own and no one else’s. It is you failing to stay in topic.
Your whining about topics I am not discussing with you is more logical fallacy, which makes everything you say thereafter have less credibility to everyone who sees it. This is why you will end up with a righteous amount of downvotes.
I wouldn’t bother responding to this, unless that’s some kind ego thing you can’t ignore. I certainly won’t be reading anything more from you.
I’m not even going to read your answer because I can tell it is in bad faith. Simple question requires a simple answer but I can tell by your wall of text you are avoiding the question. A simple no will stop you from embarrassing yourself further
Palestine is not Hamas. Can you imagine what it would be like for those who live in the US if everyone were held guilty of crimes the US has committed against the world?
Hamas killed 1200 civilians. They would have killed more if they could have. The missiles stop when Hamas leaders are dead. Give them up.
It’s cute that you think there are rules here. These holy wars have never adhered to the Geneva convention. Why would they start now? Hamas could have targeted Military, a noble endeavor, but instead they attacked civilians at a hippie concert.
I’m not entirely sure you understand how war works. Just because you’re losing doesn’t mean you’re the victim. They can end it if they surrender Hamas. It’s not edgy, is just how it is and always has been.
Sleeping on the floor of a lecture hall isn’t going to change anything. The right has propagandized this war to steer voters away from Biden you’re all falling for it. The battle for Gaza and Jew/Muslim Israel/Palestine wars have gone on for centuries. Let them do what they’ve always done.
I don’t like the killing of civilians but there’s no front line. Hamas soldiers wear civilian clothes. Israel also doesn’t give a fuck. Surrender is the only optics the world will respond to. If they surrender Hamas, and Israel continues their barrage, then we should take action against Israel.
If you want to protest, support Palestinian businesses and boycott Israeli ones. This actually works.
You don’t have a real response to my position so you immediately go off topic and begin personal insults. This tells me that you don’t have an actual position here. /out
I never insulted you but I will now, robot. Your only “position” is “Palestine is not Hamas”. PROVE IT. The world wants to fucking hear it said from Palestinian leaders.
You have no real position, you have a script. Go sling your fascist rhetoric on Reddit. You aren’t welcome here. We see through your bullshit, bandit. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦.
Hey, if they want to lump innocent people in with the actions of their government, then I’m ok with that as long as they apply it to the Israeli population as well. The only question is, how do they think we should punish innocent Israelis for what their right-wing government is doing?
Oh wait, they wouldn’t like that because most Israelis aren’t Arab. How could I forget.
Well 1200 or so Israeli’s died from the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7, and so far Israel has retaliated 30 fold by killing about 32,500 Palestinians. If the Palestinians were to respond in kind that would be about 975,000 Israeli’s.
Yes they attacked a wealthy nation where it’s mandatory for every citizen joins the military for 32 months. It was beyond stupid.
Condemn the actions of Hamas and surrender the locations of the Hamas leaders and Israel may stop the attacks. However, this foolish war Hamas started/escalated may have just cost the Palestinian people Gaza.
What part of stop the genocide are you not hearing?
Israel is committing genocide. You don’t get to make demands when you are committing genocide.
I condemn the genocide.
You are very clueless.
You have been brainwashed my friend. Good luck to you.
If Israel takes over Gaza I am fairly certain the Israeli state will cease to exist within our lifetimes. The world knows that Israel is in the wrong here.
At what point exactly did it go from retaliation strike to genocide? When the US dropped nukes on Japan was it Genocide as well? Give up Hamas and any hostages and Israel will have no justification to continue destroying Gaza. It’s common sense. Civilians die when their terrorist government hides behind them.
I’m convinced you’re a shill trying to turn young democrats away from voting for Biden. Nobody can look at the images from October 7th and act so clueless as to why Israel might be fucking pissed off and want to level Gaza and everyone in it.
Keep in mind the Israelites have actually been the victims of attempted genocide probably more than any other people.
I don’t think the US should send any more artillery to Israel. But if you’re suggesting we get involved, get a fucking clue. I’m done sending Americans to fight and die in ancient holy wars.
At what point did you ever question your strong belief that the occupation in Gaza and the West Bank should end?
I assume never.
I’m convinced you are arguing in bad faith. I’m sorry, but there never has nor will there ever be a good valid and moral reason to level an occupied territory killing over 30,000 civilians in less than a year.
Keep in mind there is never a good excuse for genocide, even more so if your people have been the attempted victims of genocide.
I’m suggesting we stop giving Israel offensive weapons.
Vote your conscious, I would never in a million years vote for Trump but as it stands I will not vote for Biden. I voted for Obama twice.
Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. We all wanted Bernie but when the establishment shut him out he told us to vote for Hilary. Many of us didn’t vote and we almost lost Democracy. The road to AOC or someone like her ends if Trump gets into office. Democracy as we know it will end.
Gaza and the West Bank have been under contention forever. Jews and Muslims will always hate each other. We shouldn’t support either, I agree. We shouldn’t take any side at all.
35k deaths isn’t genocide. Not even close. Are civilians being allowed a path to evacuate to Palestine?
Gaza inhabitant are under blockade and mistreated … The Israel government favorised hamas against fatah for a long time (and the current Israel president assumed it).
There is apartheid in Israel and the retake of Gaza would have happened without the 7 October.
I hope you say thar because you just don’t know how to act while thousand of civilians are being killed and you try to find a reason to ignore it so you can sleep.
A compromised moderator deleted my previous comment so I already feel vindicated. This is becoming reddit so much faster than expected! That said, I just can’t help myself.
I love that your rhetoric is “Isreal would have attacked Gaza anyway.” Fucking brilliant stance. Who is fucking buying this shit?
And I sleep fine becuase I learned when I was a child that God is a story and I’m entitled to nothing. The lands these people fight over will be uninhabitable in 20 years anyway. I hope the centuries of misery was worth it.
So to be clear. Israel is only allowed to kill 1200 people? Anything more and they are somehow morally inferior to Hamas who broke a long standing cease fire so they could take the opportunity to rampage through civilian towns and going on a killing spree of innocent civilians. It’s so fucking insane. If only you could hear yourselves through the hypocrisy. Both sides suck.
Israel has claimed to be the most moral army in the world.
If you are now comparing the IDF to a terrorist organization, then I understand why…. It’s because Israeli government and the IDF are a genocidal regime.
Did Hamas value innocent human lives on October 7th?
See, I still don’t see you getting the whole protesting thing, here.
Let’s not try and pigeon-hole our way out of making ourselves look dumb by making ourselves look dumber, now…
Why does this type of question get deflected? Do you support what Hamas did on October 8? Person who values innocent lives
Your question gets deflected because it isn’t asked in good faith. (Read: you’re not good at trolling.)
Our comment thread is about you not understanding what a protest is, why people do it, and the societal function it serves.
Your inability to stick to that topic in this thread is yours to own and no one else’s. It is you failing to stay in topic.
Your whining about topics I am not discussing with you is more logical fallacy, which makes everything you say thereafter have less credibility to everyone who sees it. This is why you will end up with a righteous amount of downvotes.
I wouldn’t bother responding to this, unless that’s some kind ego thing you can’t ignore. I certainly won’t be reading anything more from you.
Damn son
That’s what I said!
I’m not even going to read your answer because I can tell it is in bad faith. Simple question requires a simple answer but I can tell by your wall of text you are avoiding the question. A simple no will stop you from embarrassing yourself further
lol knew it
no u
lol
So did I
Palestine is not Hamas. Can you imagine what it would be like for those who live in the US if everyone were held guilty of crimes the US has committed against the world?
Then condemn the actions of Hamas and assist Israel in bringing their leaders and soldiers to justice.
Hamas blew up some shit and now Israel is conducting a genocide and you’re like “RAH RAH GENOCIDE!”.
Hamas killed 1200 civilians. They would have killed more if they could have. The missiles stop when Hamas leaders are dead. Give them up.
It’s cute that you think there are rules here. These holy wars have never adhered to the Geneva convention. Why would they start now? Hamas could have targeted Military, a noble endeavor, but instead they attacked civilians at a hippie concert.
Israel has genocided 35,000 innocent Palestinians, mostly children. Stop being edgy and learn to experience empathy.
I’m not entirely sure you understand how war works. Just because you’re losing doesn’t mean you’re the victim. They can end it if they surrender Hamas. It’s not edgy, is just how it is and always has been.
Sleeping on the floor of a lecture hall isn’t going to change anything. The right has propagandized this war to steer voters away from Biden you’re all falling for it. The battle for Gaza and Jew/Muslim Israel/Palestine wars have gone on for centuries. Let them do what they’ve always done.
I don’t like the killing of civilians but there’s no front line. Hamas soldiers wear civilian clothes. Israel also doesn’t give a fuck. Surrender is the only optics the world will respond to. If they surrender Hamas, and Israel continues their barrage, then we should take action against Israel.
If you want to protest, support Palestinian businesses and boycott Israeli ones. This actually works.
You don’t have a real response to my position so you immediately go off topic and begin personal insults. This tells me that you don’t have an actual position here. /out
I never insulted you but I will now, robot. Your only “position” is “Palestine is not Hamas”. PROVE IT. The world wants to fucking hear it said from Palestinian leaders.
You have no real position, you have a script. Go sling your fascist rhetoric on Reddit. You aren’t welcome here. We see through your bullshit, bandit. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦.
Did the average civilian just living their life have anything to do with it?
Maybe we should ask civilian Shani Nicole Louk.
Oh but we can’t because her naked corpse was last seen in the back of a Hamas fighter’s truck being spit on by dozens of cheering Palestinians.
That image will haunt me the rest of my life. I can’t Imagine the rage born within an Israeli from that absolutely vile video.
Hey, if they want to lump innocent people in with the actions of their government, then I’m ok with that as long as they apply it to the Israeli population as well. The only question is, how do they think we should punish innocent Israelis for what their right-wing government is doing?
Oh wait, they wouldn’t like that because most Israelis aren’t Arab. How could I forget.
Well 1200 or so Israeli’s died from the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7, and so far Israel has retaliated 30 fold by killing about 32,500 Palestinians. If the Palestinians were to respond in kind that would be about 975,000 Israeli’s.
Yes they attacked a wealthy nation where it’s mandatory for every citizen joins the military for 32 months. It was beyond stupid.
Condemn the actions of Hamas and surrender the locations of the Hamas leaders and Israel may stop the attacks. However, this foolish war Hamas started/escalated may have just cost the Palestinian people Gaza.
What part of stop the genocide are you not hearing?
Israel is committing genocide. You don’t get to make demands when you are committing genocide.
I condemn the genocide.
You are very clueless. You have been brainwashed my friend. Good luck to you.
If Israel takes over Gaza I am fairly certain the Israeli state will cease to exist within our lifetimes. The world knows that Israel is in the wrong here.
At what point exactly did it go from retaliation strike to genocide? When the US dropped nukes on Japan was it Genocide as well? Give up Hamas and any hostages and Israel will have no justification to continue destroying Gaza. It’s common sense. Civilians die when their terrorist government hides behind them.
I’m convinced you’re a shill trying to turn young democrats away from voting for Biden. Nobody can look at the images from October 7th and act so clueless as to why Israel might be fucking pissed off and want to level Gaza and everyone in it.
Keep in mind the Israelites have actually been the victims of attempted genocide probably more than any other people.
I don’t think the US should send any more artillery to Israel. But if you’re suggesting we get involved, get a fucking clue. I’m done sending Americans to fight and die in ancient holy wars.
At what point did you ever question your strong belief that the occupation in Gaza and the West Bank should end?
I assume never.
I’m convinced you are arguing in bad faith. I’m sorry, but there never has nor will there ever be a good valid and moral reason to level an occupied territory killing over 30,000 civilians in less than a year.
Keep in mind there is never a good excuse for genocide, even more so if your people have been the attempted victims of genocide.
I’m suggesting we stop giving Israel offensive weapons.
Vote your conscious, I would never in a million years vote for Trump but as it stands I will not vote for Biden. I voted for Obama twice.
Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. We all wanted Bernie but when the establishment shut him out he told us to vote for Hilary. Many of us didn’t vote and we almost lost Democracy. The road to AOC or someone like her ends if Trump gets into office. Democracy as we know it will end.
Gaza and the West Bank have been under contention forever. Jews and Muslims will always hate each other. We shouldn’t support either, I agree. We shouldn’t take any side at all.
35k deaths isn’t genocide. Not even close. Are civilians being allowed a path to evacuate to Palestine?
Gaza inhabitant are under blockade and mistreated … The Israel government favorised hamas against fatah for a long time (and the current Israel president assumed it).
There is apartheid in Israel and the retake of Gaza would have happened without the 7 October.
I hope you say thar because you just don’t know how to act while thousand of civilians are being killed and you try to find a reason to ignore it so you can sleep.
A compromised moderator deleted my previous comment so I already feel vindicated. This is becoming reddit so much faster than expected! That said, I just can’t help myself.
I love that your rhetoric is “Isreal would have attacked Gaza anyway.” Fucking brilliant stance. Who is fucking buying this shit?
And I sleep fine becuase I learned when I was a child that God is a story and I’m entitled to nothing. The lands these people fight over will be uninhabitable in 20 years anyway. I hope the centuries of misery was worth it.
So to be clear. Israel is only allowed to kill 1200 people? Anything more and they are somehow morally inferior to Hamas who broke a long standing cease fire so they could take the opportunity to rampage through civilian towns and going on a killing spree of innocent civilians. It’s so fucking insane. If only you could hear yourselves through the hypocrisy. Both sides suck.
2023 was the deadliest year for Palestinians in a long time, and that was before October. There was no ceasefire.
Come on dude stop being a dolt.
Israel has claimed to be the most moral army in the world.
If you are now comparing the IDF to a terrorist organization, then I understand why…. It’s because Israeli government and the IDF are a genocidal regime.
I’m not. It’s super fucked up. How exactly does more innocent people dying help?
Hamas not valuing human life = bad, evil people
Israel not valuing human life = totally reasonable and good behaviour
You wouldn’t recognise consistency if it was banging out a 4/4 beat on your nutsack
You clearly don’t