• @Cyberflunk
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    “lacking skills” probably means people want fair pay.

    You’re expanding your empire on the backs of people. Fucking pay them. Train them.

    Fucking upend the system, you greedy entitled fucks.

    • @assembly
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      Yeah I can’t imagine there is any shortage in the US with skill not to mention that AZ is a home to Intel manufacturing so there are trained people. My guess is that they want skilled people to work for far less than they are worth. Pay the right price and there won’t be a shortage.

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        That’s been a recurring theme in US based semiconductor for decades. I have two friends who were highly skilled in semiconductor equipment servicing and both have left the industry due to terrible management/pay.

    • @[email protected]M
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      Having worked with IC engineers in Taiwan and America… Honestly, it’s a night and day difference and most of it isn’t because of work hours.

  • @[email protected]
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    I don’t have a lot of direct evidence for this but it seems like TSMC has some pretty massive geopolitical reasons to make sure this project is slow going.

  • @[email protected]
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    Weird how subsidizing “the free market” without regulation and plenty of loopholes doesn’t achieve the reported outcome. Maybe if we hired some more capitalist lobbyists to write our neo-liberal policies, we would end up with policies that are more substantial then just giving public money to private industry.

    • @Cyberflunk
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      What’s a “neo-liberal” policy?

      • @ralphio
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        Mainly when people talk about this they mean privatization through some convoluted scheme. Look up some of Thatcher’s policies for some out there examples. Outsourcing supply chains is a big part of this privatization, and probably what the commenter meant was that not funding domestic chip production led to this mess.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    The only company to have actually received money from CHIPS is the defence contractor BAE Systems.

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      So far, yeah. They already have a significant US operation in New Hampshire that’s being expanded and upgraded. It shouldn’t be a surprise such a company met the US production requirements first because military hardware contracts require significant levels of domestic content to begin with that BAE already meets.

      Other applicants are having to establish whole new operations in the US for the first time ever. That takes a while. This kind of manufacturing needs a bit more than 4 walls, a roof, and some machines.

      Grant announcements for Intel shouldn’t be too far out. Their plan is for a whole new plant which requires more planning than the route BAE went with.

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        They’re being “paid” to establish operations in the US… Except they’re not being paid.

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          And? Why would they receive the grants before conditions are met?

          Are you suggesting these corporations should be given the benefits without doing anything?

    • carl_marks[use name]
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      Iirc Nvidia received a bunch from CHIPS too, and had to limit exports of their A100s in to China in return. A little later their managers got fat bonuses and now are working to bypass that export ban lel

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    111 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    This news follows previous delays announced last year at TSMC’s first chips plant, which Liu partly blamed on US workers lacking specialized skills.

    At Thursday’s news conference, Liu “reiterated” those complaints, Bloomberg reported, claiming that TSMC is still struggling to hire skilled workers in Arizona.

    Last month, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo confirmed that the US had not yet awarded grants to commercial semiconductor facilities like TSMC because selecting a defense contractor first “was meant to emphasize the administration’s focus on national security,” The New York Times reported.

    By funding BAE Systems, the Biden administration was likely moving quickly to decrease reliance on China-based chip supply chains for military purposes amid growing tensions between the two countries.

    According to Bloomberg, TSMC announced it was building a “more modest plant” in Japan that’s on track to launch operations this year after the Japanese government promptly provided funding.

    In December, Raimondo promised that “much larger grants for major semiconductor manufacturing facilities run by companies like Intel, Samsung,” or TSMC would be announced “in the coming months.”


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