Since the Democratic NH primary broke DNC scheduling rules and doesn’t count, I’m ok with this but only if the voting machine follows up by asking if they condemn Hamas and spends an hour lecturing the voter that protesting ethnic cleansing is a vote for Trump.
This is the part that bothers me with the “I won’t vote for Biden cuz genocide” crowd. They get very angry when you ask why they want Trump to be elected and become furious when you ask them to state an alternative.
What makes you think they want trump either? The alternative is to have the party run someone that more people will vote for.
The problem is that wanting or not wanting Trump isn’t the question. The question is whether you take actions that will make him becoming president inevitable or not.
That’s on the candidate and the party that’s running them. People don’t want to be guilted into endorsing someone who doesn’t represent them.
If the candidate can’t bring people to the poles, don’t blame the people they utterly failed to inspire. They need to change the candidate, or better represent the people.
It doesn’t sound like you’re ok with this.
My actual views on it are that, in the general election, swing state voters should definitely not cast protest votes since Trump would be catastrophic but that anyone in a solidly red or blue state should feel free to cast a protest vote since the electoral college casts “their” vote in the end. I live in Louisiana and it really doesn’t matter if I cast a protest vote for president (though I plan to vote for Biden). My vote is essentially a protest vote against local Trumpitos anyway.
But do vote, regardless. Even if you’re a Palestinian-American who would rather eat a bowl of hair than vote for either candidate, cast a protest vote against ethnic cleansing but please vote in the downballot races and on amendments and other local things. It’s not one election for president. It’s thousands of elections happening across the country.
I also don’t think lecturing people is a way to get out the vote. So don’t take that last paragraph that way. I’m personally very sick of smug centrists responding to disillusioned leftists and minorities with “Trump would be worse so vote harder!” Like, do you think leftists and minorities don’t know about fascists? The lecturing is not helpful.
Primaries are were you get to criticizes Biden. The general is too late.
If you’re more progressive than the president, like I am, there’ll be plenty of opportunities to make that case to him
When was that opportunity over the past four years? We were told to vote for Biden in the 2020 general so we could push him to the left. That promise never materialized.
But the way to do it is not to have him be weakened in a rematch with Donald Trump
This is some real “only protest when it has no affect” energy to it. We have the negotiating leverage here. I intend to use it. If Joe needs our votes he better fucking listen.
Are we not further left than Trump? Biden is center-right so you can’t expect him to go out and start yelling communists slogans.
I love how quickly “push him to the left” becomes “shut up and be happy because not trump.”
It is better to not have Trump, that’s the basic level of desire. The second level of desire is for a better candidate. Sometimes you have to take what you can get.
Sometimes is what centrists say when they mean always.
Sometimes people live in the real world and sometimes people demand utopia and won’t take something imperfect instead.
And so nothing improves like you want.
Ok. Still waiting for your solution other than “no”.
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You’ve lost me already, can you explain?
He’s just here to sling abuse at anyone who doesn’t support genocide.
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I wasn’t going to downvote your first comment until I saw this one, now I downvoted both.
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We are many
People who support genocide do love calling people they don’t like subhuman. Thank you for the demonstration.
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Right. You’re calling anyone who doesn’t support genocide cavemen. Sorry, but if you have to be like “well, Neanderthals were a subspecies of human” as your out, it’s not much of one. Everyone knows that you were calling anyone who doesn’t love genocide for its own sake as much as you do primitive subhumans. Are they the next group you want wiped out?
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And you were calling people who don’t agree with your support for genocide Chinese? Come on, dude.
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You can’t expect people to buy that you’re using a benign definition of the word when you’re using the word as a pejorative.
There is ABSOLUTELY no call for applying the term “troglodyte” to any living community of humans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte
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