• @[email protected]OPM
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      And subjecting it to a test based on the damage done by its emissions. Realistically, that means we can stop it from being built.

    • themeatbridge
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      Yeah who the fuck thinks this counts as “we all just won”?

  • IninewCrow
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    1410 months ago

    This will be the model for future developments of climate change policy …

    “As the world becomes inhospitable, people die, liveable environments evaporate, forests burn, ocean acidify, and weather worsens … we have to first think of the economy and the finances of a hand full of people who we all have to sacrifice ourselves for because their money is more important than our lives.”

  • Mambabasa
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    610 months ago

    We’ll win if we mitigate global warming to.1.5°C. I don’t see Biden phasing out coal and fossil gas or setting lowered targets for oil. No, as it is, we will exceed 2.0°C.

      • Mambabasa
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        210 months ago

        Sure, so has almost every country in the world. Men are words, and words are wind.

        • @[email protected]OPM
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          He has gone through with a pile of policies which to try and achieve that though, and US emissions are falling.

          • Mambabasa
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            110 months ago

            Not falling fast enough, not falling for 1.5°C. Don’t do PR for presidents who don’t give two shits about reaching climate goals.

            • @[email protected]OPM
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              Definitely not enough for 1.5C; whether recent policy changes get it to fall fast enough for 2C is an open question. They might if we can keep them in place after the election and the rest of the world joins in.

              • Mambabasa
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                Anything less than 1.5°C is defeatism and is literally the end of the world as we know it. It will literally mean mass death. I won’t settle for a 2°C target.

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                  I’ll be fighting for every fraction of a degree, but I don’t seriously expect to pull off 1.5C seeing as we’re likely to pass that point permanently within the next couple years

  • Flower of Anarchy
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    210 months ago

    Quit doing a victory lap hoping for Biden to fix it. He is no friend of environmentalists he is a neoliberal who is tanking his chances at relection to support a genocide.

      • Flower of Anarchy
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        110 months ago

        Vote for who you vote for. I’m in a hard blue state and I see zero reason to vote for Biden in the general. Those in swing states should vote for the democratic nominee that exists because to not do so helps Trump. In states where Biden is for sure going to win people should vote for someone else.

      • Uranium3006
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        Compromise cannidates don’t work. They let the country go right with no benefit. You know which cannidate actually got lots of crossover votes from Republicans? Bernie Sanders

        • @[email protected]OPM
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          Sanders had the support of about 1/3 of the Democrats. You can’t get somebody like that to actually be the nominee unless you get the rest of the Democrats to support their policies.

          • Uranium3006
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            he got screwed over by the party, twice. primary elections explicitly aren’t free and fair, legally

            • @[email protected]OPM
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              If he had a majority of Democratic primary voters behind him, that wouldn’t have mattered so much. The reason he was leading was that the moderates were split across many candidates.