What I never understand about these people is that… don’t they understand that the only thing that makes states powerful is that they use violence? You can have all the powerful incantations you have, but they have cops, armies, judges, and jails. That is what makes them sovereign.
Just ask Native Americans how much real actual treaties are worth to the US government.
Might want to ask the state of new mexico that…turns out treaties are worth something.
Never apologize for posting SovCit stuff, this stuff is gold, and makes me feel so much better about my state of mind…
I just don’t want to spam the shit out of.Lemmy but this one is too good to not sharr immediately.
This is a great place to post it IMO. Helps keep the community active
Have you considered starting a dedicated community for it? It seems like you have enough material to get it going.
But then this one would be dead
Yes I have. I’d like it to be c/AmIBeingDetained?
Please continue posting in this community. Lemmy is not big enough for niche communities yet.
Ok I will.
I can only agree, post everything you find, there are already so many tech topics on Lemmy, your posts are pretty much the most entertaining thing I can look at on Lemmy.
I would be so there for that.
There is one called sovcit I think
What this isn’t a sovcit ridicule sub? It’s literally the only posts I see
We have like 1 person posting sovcit content because they think its lulz and nobody else posting.
Be the change you want to see in the world or some shit.
I love how these people can never seem to spell things correctly even while using a computer or phone that definitely has an auto correct and likely a grammar checker as well.
Of course, just like how they know the law better than cops and judges and whomever else, they also know better than spell check/autocorrect.
They are, in fact, never wrong for any reason.
“Am I so out of touch? No, it’s the basic rules of grammar and society who are wrong.”
Correction: they know the super secret law! Not even the judges or legal scholars know it, but they do! And they learned it from Facebook linking them to a web1 geocities page!
The way they use legal words in made up ways is kind of reminiscent of how the book of Mormon tries to sound like the king James Bible but it was 300 years too late
Omg. That is it!!
Nailed. It.
These are the same people who say they didn’t sign a contract so laws don’t apply. Why would their fee schedule apply then?
Doesn’t their logic boggle the mind?
It’s always child support. Fuckin trash.
You make the baby, you pay the price. Pay your fuckin child support and support your child emotional by paying it on time.
Always always. And they are usually the father and the biggest piece of trash ever.
Man. I know that having actual conversations instead of saying something everyone agrees with and patting ourselves on the back is dangerous territory on social media…
That said, I’ve seen right wingers make this same argument about women and abortion and folks go insane.
I have happily raised and supported my children, and I can’t personally relate to anyone who doesn’t want to, but still.
My father abandoned me. I feel like he had the right. My mother admitted to me that she pretended to take her birth control because she really wanted a baby and my father wanted to wait. He wanted to be successful first. He’s helped me out a few times when he’s heard I’m dealing with something huge, but he didn’t have to. It was my mother’s choice to have and to keep me. She left him out of that and then demanded he pay for it.
Now, if a man and a woman are building a life together and happen to have a child, I believe he should be legally required to take care of that child.
In the case of a one night stand or something like that though, I believe “my life, my choice” is as important as “my body, my choice”. It’s practically the same damn thing. Being saddled with debt because a woman wanted to have a child just doesn’t seem right.
I have adopted and raised two children. I have adult children that I’ve raised and supported. I’m raising kids right now and I made that decision. If I decide to roll out at this point, I believe my ass should go to jail if I reject my responsibilities.
I think there are conversations worth having around that though. I know women have got the short end of the stick for a long time, and in a world where no one can make a choice, it isn’t fair to make one party carry the burden alone. In a world where a choice can be made, I feel different about it.
Edit: So, no conversation then? Just downvote and go?
I’m at 3 upvotes and 4 downvotes right now. I’m honestly interested in knowing why anyone would disagree. Like, a seriously thought out argument on why I’m wrong here.
I used to feel the same as you. But the short answer here is because the law chooses to focus on the welfare of the child over either of the parents. It isn’t about being fair to the mother or the father. The mother and the father made the child. The child needs care. The mother and the father are the most reasonably responsible for its care.
Comments of lunacy:
Love the commenter on the bottom arguing with the rest of them for not pronouncing the magic spells correctly
All for the low price of $997
Down from…nine nine seven!
Holy christ.
Well, my fee is $18,000 for reading your facebook nonsense. A like will set you back $20,000, and I’m about to like all your posts. Hey, we all get to make our own rules, right?
Sounds like the judge declined to enjoinder a treaty with him
Obviously it’s because he didnt include a booger in the note underlined in RED marker TWICE on the bottom right corner, one inch border.
45° angle
Keepin in real
I think I’m finally getting the mindset of these people. This is a person with a martyr complex who wants to go to jail so they can claim to be “oppressed”
Hmm…
They’re mostly high-school educated, and many are mentally ill, FWIW.
Evaluations of Urban Sovereign Citizens’ Competency to Stand Trial (2018)
Oh shit you got paid $250,000 each night in jail Sign me up for a week.
Somehow the judge doesn’t see it that way though.
Because she’s a NATURAL WOMAN but under the robes she’s a ROBOT WOMAN
Fine. Send him a check for $500,000 but garnish 100% of it, and use it to pay this asshole’s child support. Then say that the check was a mistake, and bill him.
This has got to be like 10% trolling the 90% into prison. Then it kind of makes sense.
Don’t apologize for posting something good just because some people can’t help but project their ADHD.
ADHD is a diagnoseable condition that has nothing to do with what you are trying to say. Break the stigma. I have loved ones with ADHD. It’s not the butt of a joke or something to call someone. People don’t make fun of people with anemia. This is no different. It’s a medical thing that the individual isn’t at fault for or has a choice in. If anything, a person with ADHD deserves understanding and patience.
Thanks. I’m pretty open about my crippling ADHD and I never sent a judge a “fee schedule.”
…and I can’t even force myself to watch those funny videos of sovereign citizens getting pulled over because they’re usually too long!
Some people just like to complain
It is true. Some people also think that their opinions matter haha.
