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Nationally, an estimated 26 percent of public school students were considered chronically absent last school year, up from 15 percent before the pandemic, according to the most recent data, from 40 states and Washington, D.C., compiled by the conservative-leaning American Enterprise Institute. Chronic absence is typically defined as missing at least 10 percent of the school year, or about 18 days, for any reason.
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I think it’s a very healthy thing that students and parents have learned staying home when you’re ill is a good idea. It’s a good thing for the American Workforce to learn too. That the capitalist overlords don’t like it is beside the point. In fact that even proves it more doesn’t it?
In fact that even proves it more doesn’t it?
Yes the fact that it’s in the NYT proves that the capitalist overlords don’t like it.
Students can’t learn if they aren’t in school.
Do they mean physically or…? There’s plenty of kids that learn just fine outside of schools.
I’m not a fan of unregulated home schooling but statements like this really undermine the message of the article 🤷
I don’t think that’s true. Sure, we get a few geniuses here and there, but with literally millions of kids out and about with no real guidance this isn’t going to be good for a future workforce. This isn’t a capitalist vs. socialist problem, but a societal one. Kids without the structure of an environment where collaboration and co-work are made available to them will struggle to integrate into other groups. Workers of the past were heavily exploited because they had little to no education to fall back on and no understanding of where they fit in the scale of things. Until Marx detailed it, all workers were exploited without realizing the whole system rested on them. Likewise, school teaches much more than propaganda and facts, but offer the opportunity to learn how to regulate one’s emotions and temper their attitudes. I also see this as an issue from parents who took school for granted when they were young and who didn’t learn anything about the world around them. It feeds this narcissism that people are just entitled to a certain view, until real life puts them in check.
Likewise, school teaches much more than propaganda and facts, but offer the opportunity to learn how to regulate one’s emotions and temper their attitudes.
That’s crap. I went through roughly 20 years of schooling and not once did “school” teach me anything about interpersonal relationships. Maybe a teacher here or there would give a tip but it was people and life experience in general that taught me all of that.
Until Marx detailed it, all workers were exploited without realizing the whole system rested on them.
There’s a history of publicly available schooling going back to the 1700s in the United States. Marx literally couldn’t have been more insignificant in how education has evolved. I know Lemmy is very pro-Marx, but there is a VERY weak relationship here at best and realistically there’s none.
Given the Marxist movement was strongest in the Soviet Union and in many ways actively opposed in the United States from local to federal levels, I’d say Marx has had a very minimal impact on US culture until recent decades where some of his ideas have been reconsidered more broadly and more favorably.
Sure, we get a few geniuses here and there, but with literally millions of kids out and about with no real guidance this isn’t going to be good for a future workforce. Kids without the structure of an environment where collaboration and co-work are made available to them will struggle to integrate into other groups.
Literally throw kids into a video game with a few friends. They’ll learn and collaborate all on their own, these aren’t skills that really need taught, though teaching can help act as a shortcut.
It’s not exactly what you’re saying, but I’m so tired of “learning how to learn” rhetoric.
The school system in this world of standardized testing is unduly stressful for students and teachers. It’s also loaded up with straight up busy work (I don’t care what you say those hours of my life wasted on mandatory word searches were NOT bettering me in any way) and things most adults have long since forgotten. I’m not for absences from school, but it’s past time we actually took a hard look at what we’re doing and whether or not it’s working (IMO it’s not and, as one of those “top 10%-ers” that got the various little academic achievement trophies and all that jazz, I feel much of my childhood was wasted on pointless exercises).
Teach someone to read and give them books. You dont have to be a genius. Most people know how to read and most children want to learn new things.
Survey by a conservative think-tank…
So obviously it’s going to blame something that may show long term effects of even “mild” COVID cases as just fucking lazyness
Just because something doesn’t kill you, doesn’t mean it makes you stronger. Often it’s the opposite
Providing some context to your comment here.
From the article:
Data provided by Nat Malkus, with the American Enterprise Institute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute
The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, known simply as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), is a center-right think tank based in Washington, D.C., that researches government, politics, economics, and social welfare.
The article does mention more than just behaviour that could be attributed to laziness.
Across the country, students are staying home when sick, not only with Covid-19, but also with more routine colds and viruses.
And more students are struggling with their mental health, one reason for increased absenteeism in Mason, Ohio, an affluent suburb of Cincinnati, said Tracey Carson, a district spokeswoman. Because many parents can work remotely, their children can also stay home.
I think this should be seen as an overall positive. If kids stay home when sick then they wouldn’t spread that sickness as easily to other students/teachers. And ideally less kids being sick would mean an overall increase in attendance.
But our schools need to be better about handling sick days. For instance, in California, public school funding is based on attendance. It doesn’t matter if the absence was excused or not.
This incentivizes schools to work on attendance but it also has the effect of pushing students to come to school even if they are sick. There’s a limit to how many excused sick days you can have before they start requiring doctor’s notes.
A lot of people were taught at valuable lesson that you don’t physically need to go to a place to listen to somebody talk.
Can’t kids just wfh now tho?
