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Ok but Reddit absolutely saves the old comments though
You are polluting the data set. Do it a few times with different text sources and the scrubbers won’t know what part of your comment history is good. Replace, don’t delete.
I’m pretty sure they’ll know that the first version of each comment is almost certainly the good one. People sometimes edit a comment to add new information or fix a typo, but they almost never replace nonsense with a good comment, rather than the other way around.
Edit: fixed typos, also replaced excerpt from Moby Dick with this post.
Edit 2: the comments you post here are totally available for machine learning, so I don’t see much of a point in deleting my Reddit comments as long as I’m participating in Lemmy.
Maybe. Almost every comment I make I edit. The key is that by doing this you are inserting the possibility. It is actually easier, and safer, to just filter out edited comments than it is to try to sort out what’s good and what isn’t. The bottom line is that the best course of action is to avoid Reddit at all cost. If you do go there and feel compelled to comment, then coming back the next day to replace your comments a few times is better than “deleting”.
They don’t need to filter out edited comments. They keep the first version. It’s good enough.
You could easily compare old vs new and see how much has changed. If more is added, edit is good. If 80% matches, it was probably minor fixes.
If nothing matches, then remove it from the data set and use the original comment. Which I’m sure they still have.
They know people are messing with the data so they aren’t going to trust anything changed a few days after first posted.
Not in a meaningful way. It’s easy to detect and revert a change like this. Instead of bulk changing all your comments, you should slowly change them over time.
Even then, users don’t usually edit most of their comments. Sure Reddit might be naive and just take the current comments, but it’s pretty trivial to reverse this kind of thing.
Probably good to do it to make this process harder and more error prone for Reddit but I would not be under the impression that this has an impact beyond being annoying.
Or it’ll help train the AI to recognize when that happens and more easily parse history for the relevant stuff.
It’s already happened last year during the reddit exodus. The AI models either validate the data or not. This has a chance of working, which is better than doing nothing at all.
Over a long period sure. If they see a spike where say, 25% of a user’s comments are changed in a day, then they’ll just use day -1
Reddit has a copy of every comment and edit, they probably have copies of things users type but don’t actually end up posting.
It is brutally trivial to notice mass edits like this.
The only thing this is doing is making it harder for people scraping it without paying, making what reddit is selling actually valuable.
Every edited or deleted comment is more money in their pocket.
Let this be a lesson on generating content for a business and not getting paid for it.
With that said, I’m sure the frog posts are exactly the kind of quality content needed to train an AI.
Big business is likely scraping our Lemmy comments anyway.
Good point. At least it’s available freely to everyone instead of being used to make a profit on the content itself.
See I don’t have any issue with data being free. I have issue with corporations hoarding it.
Oh shit it’s still Wednesday!
are there copyrighted texts that have such distinctive patterns that they would be particularly easy to spot in an LLM’s output? say, would replacing every comment with a page from moby dick or wuthering heights be more or less infringing than using harry potter? hypothetically.
Well, I’m pretty sure Moby Dick is in the public domain by now. If I were you I’d go for something from Disney which is mathematically certain to get somebody sued although I can’t predict who.
My comments on that site are so dumb, ai will not produce any good text after using those as training data.
They’ll gladly use that data, it makes the ai more human
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i personally think the value of the comments are worth leaving for people to find later even if Reddit does use them in an underhanded way.
i recognize this may not be popular.Yup. Reddit gives zero fucks about any form or protest or the degredation of the quality of content. They already have the metric the traffic originally created.
The only people negatively impacted are the people trying to find information that are pushed there by search engines when trying to find stuff.
You are entitled to your opinion.
As someone else brilliantly pointed out, leaving the comments hurts Reddit more than delete/edit.
Deleting/editing comments only hides the posts from the public. Reddit has the original posts, is ignoring all edits made to posts, and selling that original data.
Privately owned social media platforms are a dead end.
Libraries should host the peoples internet. Municipal mastodon has a ring to it I think.
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You did not understand the concept. You cannot “delete” your comments on Reddit. You can mark them as deleted but the comments still exist. If you replace your comments with out of context text like excerpts from War and Peace, then the data scrubbers will pick the data up as good. You are polluting the data set. Do it a few times with different text sources and the scrubbers won’t know what part of your comment history is good.
Do this and it stops being about privacy and it starts being about actively damaging the data sets.
They already know that everyone editing old posts is doing it to screw with them.
As others pointed out they will ignore all edits. Especially edits made after 1 day.
Losing the rare grammatical fixes or additional info that was changed weeks later doesn’t matter to them. Keeping the version last changed within 1 day of first edit gives them everything they need.
The only way to mess with reddit would require posting wrong information with a community of like minded redittors that would up vote the bad information.
Sounds like you need a GDPR request
Wow that’s crazy. You don’t control your own comments anymore.
You never did.
I left my comments there, thinking some day I might go back. But it’s been months and I haven’t missed it.
I think giving their AI my depression is punishment enough.
Ai be like “stfu regard”
And my axe!
I got banned from /r/AFL because I used Redact to scrub my comments. My how the turntables have turned and they turned out to be the real thin skinned pansy cunts. Not /r/sports during the kerfuffle.
