• @saltesc
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    The eagles against guns are some of the biggest and most bad ass eagles on the planet.

    They take sheep and roos too. And they don’t need their call dubbed over by a hawk screech to make it seem tougher than it is.

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      There is a red-tailed hawk that roams around my area, and every time we hear it, my wife rolls her eyes and goes “I KNOW it’s not an eagle” because of how many times I would mention it whenever the screech would play on TV or movies.

      • @Viking_Hippie
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        Pavlov would be proud. Amused too, probably 😁

  • @[email protected]
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    “if you fuck with my liberty”*

    *and by liberty I mean specifically don’t talk about mass shootings during campaign season. All other liberties are fair game so don’t bother being gentle just step on me hard please I like it.

  • @Viking_Hippie
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    Well there’s a reason why “bird brain” is an insult…

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    Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary

    –Karl Marx

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      He was right about a lot of things and also wrong about a lot of things. This one falls squarely in the latter category.

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        Yes, proles. Give up your only means of fighting back. We promise your right to vote is strong enough to protect you from anything. The government that can’t keep its own cops under control will save you. Trust big brother.

        Fucking delusional.

        • @Viking_Hippie
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          What’s fucking delusional is thinking that a bunch of civilians armed with handguns and rifles could ever match a modern military should it come to violent revolution or, alternatively, that arming civilians with the kind of weaponry that WOULD do the trick isn’t just a recipe for needless slaughter.

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            It’s not actually about winning against the military. The civics justification for having guns is to make harassment campaigns more accessible when necessary. (Any sustained resistance resistance campaign would have to have outside supply lines.) No modern rebel group has taken on an established military on equal footing. The goal is to make oppressing the population extremely annoying, not to actually be in control yourself. In order to actually run a government you need a different set of skills than to run a resistance campaign, but a resistance campaign might become necessary until we can restore the government to a just one.

            There’s other justifications for individual ownership of firearms, but that’s the one most similar to what you’re thinking of.

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            What’s fucking delusional is thinking that a bunch of civilians armed with handguns and rifles could ever match a modern military should it come to violent revolution

            You just have to make it expensive enough that the military doesn’t want to fight, and you need to have enough of the civilian population on your side that the gov’t can’t control them, too. As the gov’t commits atrocities against its’ own people in an attempt to crush a rebellion, it ends up creating more ideological rebels.

            And anyways, you’ll note that the US has tended to get pretty fucked up when dealing with insurgencies and guerilla warfare where it can’t leverage air superiority. How many, say, Air Force pilots do you think will start refusing orders when they find out that their last ‘precision bombing’ run killed 150 children in a hospital?

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            Ah yes, so the only other option is to roll over, give up your freedom, and trust the government to protect you from everything. Solid logic there.

            • @Viking_Hippie
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              Nope, it categorically isn’t. That’s a strawman/false dichotomy combo so ridiculous that I doubt you’re actually sane enough to be entrusted with any weapon more dangerous than a camping spork.

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                Well I could show you my gun collection but at this point I’m fairly certain that you would just shit yourself in fear.

                Anyway, have fun being unarmed with the state of the world today. The far right will continue stockpiling weapons and you’ll be knocking on the doors of guys like me if and when they finally decide to use them.

                That’s the thing that you’re not getting bud. The far right isn’t going to be using their guns against the military or the government. They’re going to be using the guns against us.

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                  statistically speaking that gun is going in your own mouth before you ever use it to serve your community

                • @Viking_Hippie
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                  Well I could show you my gun collection but at this point I’m fairly certain that you would just shit yourself in fear.

                  Typical ammosexual trait: can’t distinguish between common sense and cowardice 🙄

                  Anyway, have fun being unarmed with the state of the world today.

                  Thanks, I am and so is the vast majority of people in a radius of 1000+ miles from me.

                  The far right will continue stockpiling weapons

                  Because ridiculously lax laws and even more lax enforcement allows them to. They’re like politicians with bribes in that aspect.

                  you’ll be knocking on the doors of guys like me if and when they finally decide to use them.

                  Nah, I think I’ll just wait indoors until someone much more emotionally stable deals with it after your Rambo wannabe antics have gotten you killed.

                  The far right isn’t going to be using their guns against the military or the government. They’re going to be using the guns against us

                  And why is that? Because of the lack of laws, regulations, and enforcement. Not because wannabe tough guys like you don’t have enough penis extenders that go boom.

                  That’s the thing that you’re not getting, “bud”

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            A lot of people are in the military for economic reasons; I don’t think a lot of them would turn on the fellow members of their class. Police, on the other hand…

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        I find it hilarious that these sickos suddenly support marx when he endorses their fetishes.

        If Marx saw bump stocks cmags and all the other idiotic bullshit they use to murder children and innocents he’d call gun fetishists assholes and reassess.

    • @foggy
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      Idk why this is getting downvotes.

      This is the pretty much the only justifiable reason to like guns: they’re kinda cool

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        I got into them because of bear protection. The first thing I shot was a bear round. Definitely an experience

      • @11111one11111
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        I get what you are saying but it also makes me think you havent spent much time in the woods. It takes a very different mindset being in the woods inhabited by bears with and without a firearm. They were never around our property but their population has grown a ton in recent years and we have a couple that hang out on our 300 acres in between when the steelhead are running. They’re cool as fuck and since they’ve been more prevalent the coyote population seems to be gone but when I come over the top of a ridge or up to a thicket, it’s fuckin terrifying not having a gun. I know black bears are basically giant cats that run first almost every time but when its cub season or territorial mating season its way more intimidating. Wouldn’t fucking shoot to hit one unless it was fuckin charging but having the ability to fire a couple rounds at the ground to spook a mother and cub away or a horny young male makes it way more comfortable maintaining tree stands, trails or just hiking around. Loud noise is the best defense and firing a gun is sooooo much louder than me yelling or banging branches on the ground lol.

        Don’t get me wrong, guns are a very fun hobby and I don’t really buy too much into the defending against people defense for guns but living on 300 acres of woods which is surrounded by fucked if I know how many more acres of neighbor’s and state wooded property, having a fire arm makes it way more peaceful when you racing the sunset to get back to your 4wheeler or truck.

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          I literally live in the woods.

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        There are legitimately some places in the US where a firearm is an essential tool. Not enough to justify the fetish the rest of the country has.

        They are really cool though.

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      Heard there’s more bald eagles in Canada lol

  • @Pacmanlives
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    My New York liberal partners path. Had a few scares in the city we live in from lock-ins and just the general shit that happens in a city. It never hurts to have them so long as you know how to use them. So please shoot and be a responsible gun owner this includes locking them up and having proper safety measures in place especially if you have little ones

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    Watch out, school children getting in the way of my liberty

    • @boatsnhos931
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      You are right, propane tanks and fertilizer work better. Knives too, maybe even bleach and ammonia

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        None of those are fast, convenient, or simple, especially if used for fighting crowds.

        Case in point: Why not use propane tanks for hunting if they’re just as deadly?

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          A. Tanks throw a lot of metal shrapnel through the air, piercing organs and leaving behind bone fragments that would ruin the meat. B. When hunting, you aren’t trying to kill large groups of animals and inflict maximum damage. C. Large groups of animals aren’t typically going inside an enclosed structure and that’s where bombs are most effective. The point is that people will always find a way to kill other people no matter what you ban. I’m not trying to get into a debate but guns have been around for quite some time with very few mass shootings so it’s something else recently that is triggering all this. Keep hanging around and you might just learnt somin fr fr deadass BUSSIN 🐶

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            If there’s no need for repeated force and maximum damage, could you explain why many hunters want to still be able to use large-magazine semi-auto AR15s for hunting (as opposed to simple bolt actions)?

            If it’s a useful tool for hunting (either prey) I’d say the point applies - guns turn people unable to kill into people able to kill. If it’s not a useful hunting tool, it maybe indicates gun owners often argue in bad faith with whatever lets them keep their toys.

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              You don’t always hit the target the first time and you only get a few seconds before the animal gets away or you may be shooting through brush and undergrowth. The same calibers that are in assault rifles also tend to be in regular bolt action rifles.If you have been stalking an animal for days or weeks, you want to reap your reward after all of your work. Just for giggles, go squirrel hunting or rabbit hunting one time and see how you feel about bolt action. I know you have probably never handled a firearm and probably won’t but there are responsible gun owners out there, the mainstream media is only showing off the newsworthy idiots because that’s what gets the views…

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                I feel like you’re not quite following what you’re admitting to, and failing to get that hunting is just the analogy for argument there.

                Yes, semi auto makes it much easier to hit a victim through bullet spray. By your own point, that makes a semi auto weapon a much, much easier tool to kill a large number of people than fiddling with bombs or bladed weapons. People run, just like squirrels do.

                So your whole point of “people will mass murder anyway” is failing to realize that the tool in question CAN in fact make that easier, and thus more likely to happen.

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                  You just asked me to explain why hunters want large capacity clips. I explained it to you. I’m admitting that yes, clips do allow you to shoot ANY target more rapidly. You are failing to address why these shootings are happening, you are going for the low hanging fruit. It’s the same concept with drugs, ban one, another pops up. The exact same thing will happen with guns until you figure out the root causes. I’m not shooting up a school because weapons are available.

    • @Viking_Hippie
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      It’s this thing we have in countries with more civilized laws governing death tools.

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        Meanwhile said countries are completely reliant on USA death tools via NATO treaties because you have regulated yourselves into helplessness while Russia is at your doorstep knocking. Good luck to you if Trump is elected and backs away from defense treaties.

        • @EmpathicVagrant
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          We may not need licenses for firearms but we need them for cars, heavy equipment, a ton of employment positions, but not this ranged lethal weapon that fits in your pocket

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            That’s because driving a car or operating heavy equipment are not a constitutional right written down by decree of democratically elected officials during a constitutional convention, you silly fuck.

            Regardless, your lack of broadly socially-accepted individual-level firearms training and neutered militaries will be unable to stop the unending meat waves of aggressive territory-hungry Russian rapists no matter how you play it.

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              Why can’t a civil discourse be had without name calling?

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                Pretty sure they’re either a troll or wildly ignorant. Either way, it’s probably safe to just ignore them.

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                  I’m actually very dumb and ignorant. Apologies.

                  However, civil discourse can be done with vulgarity. Just stop being a pearl-clutching limp-wrist self-censoring sycophant.

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              We write on a piece of paper that this tool requires no piece of paper because this other piece of paper says it doesn’t need a piece of paper

              USE. ACTUAL. REASONS.

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          You must be very clueless to think europe has no gun factories. The hk416 is a prime example

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          Russia won’t make it past Finland.

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            That is… Likely not correct. Finland came very, very close to losing the Winter War; Russia pulled back because they didn’t realize that the Finns were on their last legs. Yes, Russia right now couldn’t walk through Finland, but at the strength they had prior to invading Ukraine? It’s much, much more probable. The military of Finland is tiny compared to Russia; 292,000 (about 25k active, the rest reserve) compared to 3,159,000 (1.1M active); looking solely at active military, that’s 44:1, Russian advantage.

            The big thing that would stop Russia now is NATO, since all countries are pledged to help any other member country if (when) Russia invade. The US is a significant part of NATO, both in terms of raw manpower, and in terms of money spent on the military. Without NATO, Finland probably loses, as long as Russia presses their attack. With NATO, but a NATO without the US, Finland wins, but it takes years. With both NATO and the US, Finland takes Moscow in 2 months.

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              Shoot twice four times and go home.

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            I really hope so.

            I hope all Russian soldiers die slow painful deaths, and I hope their entire economy tanks harder than Putins mom getting railed out by the chimps that were present in the orgy responsible for fathering that bastard.

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    American gun culture grew out of murdering people and stealing their land and sustained itself on murdering people for talking to white women.

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      Not exactly. I can see why you’d say that, but Americans weren’t gun nuts until around the 1910s to 1920s. At that point the right wing decided they needed a better red herring than the Mexican Border, and started pushing the 2nd amendment bullshit they’ve been on ever since.

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        Interestingly, gun control laws were implemented to keep guns out of the hands of minorities. Gun control is literally racist.

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          I didn’t. I corrected you and pointed out that it happened after we were done with expansionism.

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            You’re still doing it. Except to be clear: you didn’t point out shit. You said some vacuous “they needed a red herring” shit about the 2nd amendment without any explanation of why they did, why they picked that, or even really who they were. And you didn’t correct shit either. Aside from an equally vacuous “You’re wrong.”

            Have something to say or shut up. Please.

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              I said what I had to say, succinctly. It’s not my fault you lack the historical knowledge, and grasp of nuance to know what I was talking about.

              You seem rather angry, might wanna cut back on the stimulants or social media.

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                I literally said the same thing you did except I said more. What are you talking about. Fucking weirdo extraordinaire.

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    I’m not going to get a gun and I’m ready to die on that hill