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The title is the original title that NYT published. They updated it after backlash (rightfully so). Please don’t report this post again.
Can you not update the title? I can update my title on posts to different communities… Why preserve the old/pre-change title?
they can, but the title doesn’t violate any rules.
He’ll do a debate if it’s in his safe space. Snowflake.
I think this is bad news tbh. Harris can be as capable as she wants, but if the broadcaster doesnt stop Trump from a endless ramble or cut off his mic if he escalates to intolerable levels of behaviour, then this could end badly.
Don’t give Fox News respect. Start talking shit about it right now. Call this what it is, a scared old weird man who will only debate Harris on a “news” network currently paying billions for lying to everyone about the last election. Harris will treat Trump and the “journalists” playing moderators like children which is how we should’ve been treating them for years. Talking to them like adults validates their lies and bullshit.
Harris should call them out. “I said a debate on a news source, not some weird entertainment channel. Might as well have the weather channel moderate the debate!”
While entertaining for us, I don’t think that’d be a wise reaction. If she wants to win, she probably also needs to sway some people that are lifetime FOX junkies. Such a reaction could have a ‘basket of deplorables’ effect (being the stone cold truth, but hardly effective)
Being nice to idiots has proven to be hardly effective. Kamala needs to read word for word the arguments the Fox News lawyers made when they were in court for the dominion case. Fox News isn’t news it’s entertainment and they don’t employ journalists they employ entertainers. This is what Fox News said.
No, what she needs to do is win this election. That’s her job, everything else (like taking entertainment corpos to task for their shady tactics) comes secondary right now.
I fail to see how one impedes the other, in fact I would argue it would help her win. If she’s running on doing just that why wouldn’t she take a shot. Why hide? You think any Fox News fanboys would be swayed by anything Kamala says? Her time would be better spent attracting unregistered voters and she could do that by saying the quiet part out loud.
Pretty sure Fox is run by a scared old weird man.
Hopefully it’s outside.
Underhanded. I like it.
This is a weird way to say “Trump backs out of debating Harris on ABC”.
NYT are fools for using that headline. Their journalists, or editor, obscured the facts with that one. “Updated” headline (not joking):
Trump Cancels a Debate With Harris on ABC News and Pitches One With Fox News Instead
Haha I see that new headline. ‘tegrity.
The biggest issue is many people will have only seen the first headline and not the update. They got inaccurate information and it won’t be corrected, and the NYT is to blame.
“Cancels” is the wrong verb again. ABC can cancel it, Trump can only decide not to show. ABC and Kamala can go ahead and have a debate with the audience or even put a cardboard cut out in his place and play random quotes he’s made and let Kamala disagree with them. ABC would get views and advertising revenue.
The right neutral verb phrase there is “backs out of”. The one I would pick is “shirks” or “fears”
In what sense has he agreed something if no one else involved knows about it? I think the right verb here is ‘suggests’.
He made a post saying that’s the “deal”. In a way it’s a
bravebrazen way to try and get a venue change. Harris would have to basically insult Fox News and their entire viewership to avoid looking like she’s walking away.Which (insulting fox and their viewers) she should do regardless, tbh
If she can go on Fox News and score a couple points against him it’ll go very well for her though; going into the proverbial lions den and coming out the other side
No (current) Harris voters are watching Fox News right now, she only stands to gain votes if she handles herself.
It won’t. There is nothing to gain in debating baby Donnie on Fox News.
Yeah putting this on Fox seems like a super risky move on the Trump campaign’s part, for not that much gain.
They’re scared. Nobody get complacent.
Gov Newsom destroyed when he was on Fox. I don’t think that Fox will repeat their mistake.
That’s a quick way to lose an election. Almost like calling people deplorable. That worked great didn’t it?
That was one of the very few good things she did. Hilary is just a deeply unlikable person.
Insulting voters is never a good move in an election.
Brave isn’t the right word. Brazen is.
Yeah I can’t always with the words.
Again, it’s not a deal if you don’t have agreement. That’s not a deal, it’s an offer.
I know that and you know that. But do the people who just watch Sinclair News know that?
That’s what Trump is doing to ABC right now
And she’s calling him out in a way I couldn’t see happening before. I’m glad to see it.
According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, the debate is to take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, the must-win battleground state that could help decide the election. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.
It was unclear early Saturday if Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives for her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.
I think it’s worth waiting to see if Harris has actually agreed to this, in the extremely unlikely chance that Trump lied about a thing.
Also, pretty funny that even if that’s the case, Trump still needs a month to prepare and it has to be in his safe space network.
he is only ‘agreeing’ with the voice inside his head bouncing between the three brain cells. trying to play games and force harris into it.
i highly doubt harris would agree to those terms. nfw.
I’m sorry but you’re wrong. Two brain cells fighting for third place.
The Harris campaign on Saturday declined to commit to the Fox News debate and said it was still planning on a Sept. 10 debate hosted by ABC.
“Donald Trump is running scared and trying to back out of the debate he already agreed to and running straight to Fox News to bail him out. He needs to stop playing games and show up to the debate he already committed to on Sept. 10,”
I think that’s pretty clear.
Pleassssseeeee stick to this Harris!! Man we can only hope.
I’m glad she called it exactly for what it was. Too bad Magoos will only see this as she wants her supposed safe space. :(
Would be funny to have it at the same place he got shot at last time.
Have it at the 4 Seasons (Total Landscaping parking lot).
That’s even better, nice one.
I truly can’t believe this timeline. That moment can’t have been real. Yet it was.
Well, Harris does have a pre-existing commitment coming up soon. Surprised Trump didn’t challenge her to debate during that.
I would love if both Fox News and the Harris campaign came back and were like “wtf no one ever told us about this. Old dude with dementia is just making shit up again.”
only if harris somehow sneaks a bullhorn/megaphone onto the stage so she can still make sure those fuckers hear her when her mic “malfunctions”.
fox deserves no respect.
You know how fascists are always projecting; the way he treats normal news agencies tells us all we need to know - it’s exactly how we SHOULD be treating his pet agencies.
Fox Moderator: “Vice President Harris, how would you respond to the accusation that your administration was responsible for the supply-chain crisis, grocery price inflation, massive corporate layoffs, Texas power outages, the summer heat wave, and the border apocalypse?”
Harris: “What? Now wait…”
Fox Moderator: “President Trump. They say you have the best golf record of any president in history. How did you accomplish this historic feat?”
…
They’d probably just cut her off 2 words into her responses then play it off as she doesn’t have an answer
You know he’d completely fuck up the answer and go on ranting about migrants crossing the border, inflation, how smart he is and other rants. In previous interviews on Fox News they have handed him simple questions on a platter which were written to make him look like a good guy…and he completely screws it up and makes him self look like an idiot. It’s actually pretty hilarious.
Did you see that Fox News one recently where Laura Ingraham repeatedly tried to help Trump’s public image by giving him numerous opportunities (repeating the same soft ball question 4 or 5 times in a row) to walk back or tone down some of his controversial comments? He could not take the hint at all, just kept rambling about completely irrelevant stuff while she desperately tried to feed him the answer. It was pretty funny.
Haha nope, I gotta look that one up now. I need a good laugh, my computer is pissing me off at the moment.
Edit: wow the projection is so strong in that video
I’m done laughing at this fucking clown. I’m just sad.
This was the obvious move - attempt to change the venue to Fox, Newsmax or worse. I’m surprised Tucker isn’t a proposed moderator.
Harris should counter with a live fact check requirement regardless of venue, which Trump and Fox could never accept.
Even with a live fact check requirement, would you trust Fox News to fact check? They’d probably use “alternative facts”.
Fox’s lie. Who’d ever believe their news?
I mean foxes do say a lot of things… https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE?si=wmu99UDKpDg5OQk9
The problem is that I let it play even after I saw what it was…
Her statement should make clear that she is only interested in debates hosted by news networks, citing Fox News’ own lawyers who say that they aren’t journalists, but rather “entertainers”.
Maybe also make a point of refusing to work with an organization that was found liable for defaming voting machine manufacturers and poll workers during the last election.
There are endless valid reasons for saying no to this debate, and holding Trump to the original debate schedule he already agreed to.
I want the debate to happen AFTER Trump is sentenced in DC. Depending on what happens there, the debates topics are vastly different. Making a president into a king with literal life or death powers is a power that Trump will misuse.
“Trump agrees with himself”
…say, is it perhaps weird to make meetings with yourself?
Trump: “I am chickening out of the debate with Harris, and trying to force it onto a right-wing propaganda network that won’t let me lose.”
New York Times: “Trump has accepted the invitation to debate Harris.”
No he didn’t, you fucking hacks. How the fuck does one accept their own invitation? He wasn’t invited to shit, he burned his invitation and is demanding Harris play a new game.
Fuck Trump for being a cowardly weasel, and fuck the New York Times for this bullshit narrative.
Did the headline change or something? I don’t think NYT said it’s an acceptance
It says “Trump agrees”. I clicked on it thinking it was a done deal but it’s very much not. It’s misleading.
Edit- they changed it on the site. But damage is already done to people who just see the original headline and don’t read into it.
I asked my question because the NYT headline that I personally saw didn’t say “Trump agrees,” and I wanted to verify whether that was the actual headline or an interpretation of it.
Yes, the network that had to pay nearly a billion dollars for pushing a false narrative in order to get Trump elected the last time around is the perfect venue. Oh, and a live Fox News audience? What could be bad about that?
What a joke.
They’re probably hoping someone in the audience brings a gun.
What, do we need another Republican to shoot Trump’s other ear?
I was thinking Kamala. Never know with those idiots though. lol
Side note: Did you happen to see the close ups of Trump’s ear at the ABJ convention? Shit was on FULL DISPLAY and didn’t look shot at all. 🤔
Ask anyone who wears earrings, ears heal fast. (That said, I expect he only had a scratch.)
Not from a bullet wound, they don’t.
I still maintain that he got a scratch from a shard of the teleprompter at worst, and has been milking it for all it’s worth.
It was reported that it was a 2cm wound. That’s not insignificant.
A 2cm graze wound is different from a 2 cm penetrating wound. Even that fact can be misleading.
Because it wasn’t. That blood was the spatter from an actual victim behind him. He has been pretending to have been shot, without any actual injury of any kind.
How could the blood have been from the other victim? They were no where near that close to Trump. They would have had to have been on the stage with him lol
Blood spatter can travel quite a long distance. The shooting victim was in the crowd immediately behind Trump at what looks to be about 15-20 feet away. If he was that close, a high velocity projectile could create spatter that could reach the podium.
Apply Occam’s razor here. Of course he’s milking it for all its worth, but he got hit by something. Bullet graze, shrapnel graze, shattered glass graze, whatever it was it did hit him.
If Trump is afraid he can’t find the ABC venue can’t his son or someone drive him there and help him get to the stage?
She didn’t though. This is blatant misinformation.
Apparently, it is news to Fox, too.
Headline so insanely misleading they had to change it lol. NYTimes is such a joke these days
Delete this post for using the word Agrees in the title.
Yes. This is blatant misinformation. Nobody “agreed” to anything. The actual nyt article doesn’t even use this word. This post needs to be deleted.
Article headline got edited after backlash
