• @[email protected]
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    773 months ago

    you know you’re old when you’re salty about kids thinking the cover version is the original

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      323 months ago

      That said, Cash absolutely fuckin nailed that cover. I think it’s way more emotional than the original. I’m sure Trent was proud as fuck at what Cash did to his song.

      • @GunValkyrie
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        303 months ago

        I know it’s not a popular opinion but I don’t think Johnny cash understood Trents original meaning of the song and turned it into a self aggrandizing song. Especially the change from “I wear this crown of shit” to “I wear this crown of thorns”.

        It just doesn’t hit like the NIN version which clearly came from a very personal place.

        • A Phlaming Phoenix
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          173 months ago

          Exactly this. It also lacks the gravity of an entire concept album preceding it and two minutes of static death sounds at the end. It’s a sanitized cover of a song that shouldn’t be sanitized.

        • @[email protected]
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          73 months ago

          I think it’s similar, I think the thorns are the pain of regret that he wears for all that he has done. The crown of shit is similar in that it’s worthless, he’s a king of nothing.

        • @mriormro
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          13 months ago

          He absolutely did and it’s an unpopular opinion because you’re positing that a song man who’d been in the business for 50 years couldn’t understand the meaning.

          He changed the line because of his faith, mostly.

          • @P00ptart
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            23 months ago

            If his faith was in conflict with the song, he should’ve left it tf alone.

      • @[email protected]
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        93 months ago

        Johnny Cash always nailed covers. He makes songs I thought were average sound great, and you believe every word he sings.

      • @Raiderkev
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        53 months ago

        He’s out and said it’s Johnny’s song now.

      • @OlinOfTheHillPeople
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        33 months ago

        Unpopular opinion: His versions of One and Rusted Cage are better than the originals.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍
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      103 months ago

      I’m old enough to have bought Downworld Spiral on release day, and I think Reznor wrote that song for Cash. It just took him and the the rest of us 20 years to realize it.

    • @xantoxis
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      53 months ago

      Right? Like damn, I know that was a good cover but have we already forgotten it was a NiN song?

  • str82L
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    633 months ago

    Perhaps Tent Reznor thought the same.

    • @Crazyslinkz
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      303 months ago

      I agree, kind of annoying that the person that wrote the song doesn’t get credited for what was said.

      • str82L
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        33 months ago

        In fairness I do believe Johnny somehow managed to do it better, but credit where credit is due.

        • @Crazyslinkz
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          83 months ago

          Said this before on this platform, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. It’s your opinion that you think Johnny’s version is better.

          I like both versions of the song. They have a different delivery.

            • @Crazyslinkz
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              Not until he saw the video. He originally said after listening

              ive it a cursory listen. It sounded… weird to me. That song in particular was straight from my soul, and it felt very strange hearing the highly identifiable voice of Johnny Cash singing it. It was a good version, and I certainly wasn’t cringing or anything, but it felt like I was watching my girlfriend fuck somebody else.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurt_(Nine_Inch_Nails_song)

              • @scutiger
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                13 months ago

                but it felt like I was watching my girlfriend fuck somebody else.

                Some people are into that. Who’s to say Reznor wasn’t?

            • @[email protected]
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              23 months ago

              Trent liking a cover version more doesn’t mean Trent didn’t write the original lyrics.

          • str82L
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            103 months ago

            I too like both versions, and actually writing such a powerful song is something Trent deserves huge credit for. Talent all round.

          • @ziggurat
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            43 months ago

            I don’t know how to speak music, but I’ll try. I think the dissonant notes together with i believe micro tonal pitch bending (maybe I don’t know i have bad pitch) in the original better illustrate the discomfort of Trent very poetically.

            Also Cash sensoring the original lyrics is okay, but it doesn’t deliver has hard.

            Don’t get me wrong, both versions are beautiful, and this is just nit picking

            • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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              03 months ago

              I think that Cash’s slow delivery, acoustic guitar, and deep, raspy voice, better delivers the despair and loneliness of the song.

        • @NABDad
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          73 months ago

          I still prefer Kermit’s version.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 months ago

          That’s only because the US version of Further Down does not contain the live version, which is the best version.

        • @[email protected]
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          There’s a lot of those. Patti Smith’s “Because the Night” is better than Bruce Springsteen’s performance of the same. Leonard Cohen has a voice that’s something of an acquired taste, so most people prefer Jeff Buckley’s version of “Hallelujah”.

          Patti Smith also had an excellent version of “Teen Spirit”, but it’s more of a different take than better, I’d say.

      • str82L
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        23 months ago

        I have been in an all out war with autocorrect over the last 24 hours. Appear to have lost that particular skirmish without even realising it.

    • @moistclump
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      33 months ago

      Do you know all the words? Those would be vermiculture vernacular.

  • @Donjuanme
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    73 months ago

    And now I need to go cry.

    Thanks op

    • go $fsck yourself
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      173 months ago

      Because you’re upset at the meme implying Johnny Cash wrote the song, right?

      • @Buddahriffic
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        53 months ago

        Speaking of covers, Trent Reznor does a great cover of this song. Almost as good as Cash’s!

  • @[email protected]
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    33 months ago

    Considering how much the Cash version changed the meaning and vibe of the song, yeah this is canon now.