TL;DR they went after people who were already vulnerable, and didn’t attempt to challenge people who were threatening Israel’s interests but also had strong prospects going into their primaries. They seem to a certain extent to have spent money in races where the incumbents were already facing a tough fight, so they could claim they were responsible if they did turn out to lose. You’ll notice Summer Lee, Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib are still around, and winning by 20+ point margins.
They scared
They’re not scared. That’s just what predators always do. Take out the sick and the weak. Yes Omar etc are fine because their districts are safe for them.
The fact remains however, that there are now less people openly supporting Palestine in Congress. And everyone in a competitive district will think twice about it.
The worst part of it is that no one left or otherwise is really fielding candidates to primary these groups. To get more supporting Palestine elected. In fact many self-proclaiming on the left are doing everything they can to hamstring the greater party and thereby reduce the ability of the remaining Congress people supporting Palestine. As you and I discussed below.
It’s fucking infuriating that they took Cori Bush out in her primary.
Not to any centrist. Netanyahu bought them a candidate.
Genocidal regimes can buy candidates in the US.
So, they can still, but the point of the article is that it’s becoming less and less true over time. AIPAC seems to have picked on the weakest candidates and not made an attempt to challenge some of their most vocal critics.
The American electorate is still fine with genocide, but the minority that doesn’t like it is steadily growing and has become bigger than I think a lot of old-school political people realize.
So, they can still, but the point of the article is that it’s becoming less and less true over time.
Sure, they’re buying candidates in the open and lemmy’s pro-genocide centrists gloat about it, but it’s ok because they’re picking their battles!
The American electorate is still fine with genocide,
Got polling for that, or do you just like claiming that a majority of people agree with you?
but the minority that doesn’t like it is steadily growing and has become bigger than I think a lot of old-school political people realize.
Incrementalism is moral bankruptcy itself.
I have absolutely no idea why you keep insisting that I like genocide (or Israel buying candidates?). It makes it pointless to talk to you because you are attacking points of view that have nothing to do with what I think. I just don’t want to have an extensive argument about what it is that I believe with someone telling me, no, you don’t, you believe this other thing instead. That’s the reason I have generally given up on talking to you; I’m not sure what I was thinking just now. Mostly I was just trying to help you understand this article.
You asked a perfectly fair question though which I will answer – here’s a poll about the Americans’ feelings about the war. How you ask the questions and what questions you ask and how you tee them up make a pretty significant difference to what people say, but that one seems pretty honestly organized and comprehensive, and they’re transparent about what exactly they asked. 34% say the way Israel is fighting the “war” is unacceptable, 38% say it’s acceptable, 26% say they’re not sure.
I think that attitude is because they’re profoundly confused about what is happening in Gaza because of our atrocious media, not that 38% of Americans understand that it’s a genocide and want Israel to be doing that. I only summarized as “fine with genocide” because I thought they were fine with aid to Israel (which a lot of them don’t understand the implications of)… I have now learned from reading this that they don’t. The little four-quadrants chart shows that if you limit it to people who say “yes” or “no” about military aid to Israel, you get 64% “no.” Holy shit. That’s way higher than I thought.
I have absolutely no idea why you keep insisting that I like genocide (or Israel buying candidates?).
It’s because, much like linkerbaan. They’re here to virtue signal. They will reject obtainable but imperfect solutions and the groups involved. Harangue and attack anyone who supports it for any reason. They have no workable solutions, and won’t help Palestinians in any meaningful way. But woe unto anyone who points it out.
It’s worse than that, with both users - they are literally making up nonsense so they can posture as the one who is pro-Palestinian to the point of getting hostile with someone else who is also pro-Palestinian. If they were criticizing my imperfect solution that would at least make some kind of sense.
With Linkerbaan I feel like I have a strong understanding of why they are doing it. With Ensign_Crab I am totally lost as to why. I genuinely have no kind of ill will towards them in any way and they’re convinced that I am some kind of vicious pro-Israel enemy, in a way that is totally confusing to me.
Ardent Biden defender claims he is supporting Palestinians
Yet you can’t provided any proof of it. Childish name calling is all you’ve got.:-)
Conservatives whine about virtue signaling.
Other people do too. The term existed long before they incorrectly started using it. And the fact that this is your only rebuttal. Is pretty damning.
I mean, the only thing you want to hear is agreement with your position regarding genocide, so there is nothing I’m going to say that will satisfy you.
I have absolutely no idea why you keep insisting that I like genocide (or Israel buying candidates?)
Maybe it’s because you keep answering people being upset at the actions of a genocidal apartheid regime and its supporters by downplaying it and trying to spin it as acceptable or even good.
Oh, don’t worry! They’re totally drawing back! They only bought who they thought they could buy! They’re spending their pro-genocide dollar wisely! Isn’t that great? That’s not a step in the right direction to anyone who doesn’t support genocide.
That’s naked brazen corruption in favor of genocide.
Maybe it’s because you keep answering people being upset at the actions of a genocidal apartheid regime and its supporters by downplaying it and trying to spin it as acceptable or even good.
This is the exact opposite of what I generally am doing, including right now in this thread. Like I say, I have no idea what’s in your head when you create this imaginary conflict. Good luck though. I hope your issue gets better over time.
A genocidal apartheid regime bought candidates.
Keep ignoring this. Gaslight instead.
AIPAC isn’t the US’s pro-Israel lobby… it’s Israel’s pro-Israel lobby.
That is a weird graphic for that “Connected for Good” thing. I think it’s more supposed to represent a star from the US flag, suggesting we’re connected to Judaism/Israel, but it comes across as a pentagram, almost Satanic in a way.
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