• Flying SquidM
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    Except that still has the new effects and it’s still restored. And therein lies my problem with what you can usually see.

    1. The new CG effects look totally out-of-place with the show as it was filmed. They’re incredibly jarring.
    2. The restoration does not take into account the fact that the lighting and makeup was designed to pop on snowy 1960s TVs.

    I don’t need to see what is clearly just makeup on Spock. Or just lipstick on Shatner. I really don’t think Kirk would have been wearing lipstick. Not even as a gender thing, I just don’t think he would see a reason to.

    • J'Pol
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      TOS in 4k is best enjoyed on a 24" CRT that is 7 feet away with broadcast noise

      • Admiral Patrick
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        And DS9 is best enjoyed…on a flip phone? lol

        Truly a case of “not because I should but because I could” haha.

        • J'Pol
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          Sigh, fine. I’ll bite.

          How did you take this picture?

            • J'Pol
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              I was trying to bait you into an increasingly complex series of images where it is always implied that you captured the images with a phone, yet the phone is always pictured. Us, the idiot audience are to assume the absence of standalone cameras.

              • Admiral Patrick
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                Lol, well, next time I’ll be sure to take the bait, go to my drawer of abandoned gadgets, and take increasingly meta photos until I end with this:

                • @cybervseas
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                  Camera 1 whirr

                  Camera 2 whirr

                  Camera 3 whirr

                • J'Pol
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                  I appreciate that. Also CAT makes phones?! You sent me down a rabbit hole and now I want and kind of need a phone with a built in Flir camera.

    • @Blue_Morpho
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      That would be a great Lower Decks scene. Kirk and Spock in a bathroom together where Spock is touching up his eye shadow and Kirk is applying lipstick.

    • Ellia Plissken
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      I had to go out of my way to find a non-remastered version because the effects were just pulling me right out of the nostalgia

      • @[email protected]
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        Where’d you find one? I’d much rather this than the “updated” graphics, which I too find jarring.

        • Ellia Plissken
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          i think i just grabbed the shittiest looking torrent i could find, all avi files. I’ve heard there’s a way to find them on Paramount but I’ve never tried

          • @kaitco
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            …all avi files.

            This is the way.

  • verity_kindle
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    Real film can be cleaned up, restored and remastered in super mego 4000K HD or whatever, so I can see Spock’s five 'o clock shadow come and go as the filming day went on and they filmed some scenes out of order, then physically cut the chosen takes together on a machine. It makes me smile. Real film is best film.

      • verity_kindle
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        The actor’s chin, cheek and upper lip stubble. “Five 'o clock shadow” is an English idiom for a man’s facial hair. They shave in the morning before work, some clean shaven men will have short stubble visible again by 5 p.m. or so.

          • verity_kindle
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            No problem! I love idioms and don’t mind explaining.

      • verity_kindle
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        I don’t, Paramount has the rights, they might have the masters.

  • Repple (she/her)
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    All Star Trek through season 3 of Enterprise was shot (though not necessarily mastered) on film. No?

    • @Thebeardedsinglemalt
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      IIRC DS9 and VOY were shot on tape which is why they say we’ll never get a true remaster of those.

      • Repple (she/her)
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        They were shot, but not mastered on film. The problem is they have a lot more cg that would have to be completely redone and no one wants to spend the money on it. For example, we have some 4k footage scanned from the original film from the ds9 doc “what we left behind”

        • DominusOfMegadeus
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          I want to spend the money on it! I don’t have the money, but I still want to spend it!

        • @[email protected]
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          There’s some really decent upscaled samples of Voyager floating around (well, decent looking to me at least). Would love to know how they did it, I tried upscaling sg1 a few years back and have nfi what I’m doing, they succeeded at taking up a lot more space, and that’s about it.

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    How was this done? Upscale or from the original film?

    Urgh imagine if paramount stopped being cheap bastards and just released 4k HDR of all of trek.