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Not surprised. They’re not doing it out of some newfound sympathy for the plight of working folks, but because even they recognize that the chaos and instability Trump brings is bad for business.
After weighing the tax breaks and deregulation, the vast majority of corporations still continuously donated to the Christian fascist party throughout the last decade of open fascism.
Of course they don’t like the idea of having to bend the knee and kiss the ring of King fascist, or the risk of being destroyed because they’re arbitrary labelled too “woke” by a mentally ill cult, but the dramatically increased profit margins remain far too tempting for most.
Yeah, each one of them individually would be totally fine with it if they were being made King Fascist, but they can’t allow anyone else to take the spot
That’s why the media seems to be pro Trump… chaos and turmoil sells their product for them.
these fucking people are finally considering that the societal collapse trump would bring might be bad for business?
The timing implies it’s in response to Harris’ new capital gains policy rather than any sudden crisis of conscience.
Did society collapse in 2016? I must’ve missed it.
The pandemic kind of wallpapered over it, but at the time we were looking down the tubes at a recession and a trade war, and Trump had by that point gotten rid of most of the competent cabinet that kept him in check.
If a 2008 crisis hit, it would have been bad.
People tend to forget how badly he fucked up the pandemic response. Imagine his cronies instead of Bush and Obama’s people in '08. We’d be in a depression by now.
Operation warp speed was incredibly successful. Not sure where this narrative that the whole response was a disaster comes from. Too much MSNBC?
Demonizing and downplaying and sowing doubt on the credibility of public health did incredible damage. One of the reasons the US suffered as badly as it did is because the Trump admin treated it like a PR attack on Trump, instead of like a legitimate crisis, which it was.
Trump’s failure is commonly assumed to have killed almost half-million people. And that’s just Trump’s response to COVID, turning vaccine hesitancy into a mainstream right-wing shibboleth is going to be a gift that keeps giving.
Warp speed also didn’t really help that much. Of the recipients, only Moderna’s was successful, and Pfizer wasn’t part of the program. And that’s before we get into insider trading allegations and how it didn’t coordinate with anyone internationally.
Pfizer received a good chunk of change from warp speed. Besides that, it’s not like they were the only successful manufacturers. I’m not sure I’d view “vaccine hesitancy” as a gift in any sense…
I’m not sure I’d view “vaccine hesitancy” as a gift in any sense…
That’s why it’s silly that anyone would claim Trump’s covid response was anything but disastrous.
To quote their own R&D lead: "Pfizer’s head of vaccine and research and development, Kathrin Jansen, had said on November 8 that they “were never part of the Warp Speed”. They did receive a large initial order, but they didn’t partake of Warp Speed for R&D. They did, however, get funding from European governments.
Moderna was the only completely successful recipient of Warp Speed funding. AstraZeneca was the other one, but their offering had issues with blood clotting.
don’t be a moron. it’s going to take DECADES just to fix the supreme court problem trump and the GOP are 100% responsible for. that’s ignoring literally all the other damage trump has done to american society, which will also take generations to fix, if you’re being generous
maybe you could ask your beloved capitalist corporate overlords why even THEY see no fucking good coming from trump continuing his corpulent swan dive to the bottom as “leader” of this country
I don’t think the Supreme Court has a “problem”
The institution is working just as intended, arguably the only of the 3 branches.
LOL and next you’ll claim to feel the same way if it were 6 corrupt liberal justices instead of 6 corrupt conservative judges
you’re getting nowhere in this thread dude. but by all means, keep up your trolling practice
Im trying to engage in civic discussion, not trolling at all.
Are they corrupt because they disagree with you on legal issues or what?
They’re corrupt because they’re actively taking bribes and kickbacks?
While not ideal, this is not anything new.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/07/supreme-court-immunity-corruption/679107/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/01/justice-system-bias-supreme-court-00165991
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/opinion/supreme-court-clarence-thomas-corruption.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/26/us/politics/supreme-court-corruption-bribery.html
but no one’s kidding anyone here. you are NOT “trying to engage in civic discussion.” you aren’t going to actually read any of those links. your method of trolling is itself a corruption of endless socratic method questioning which leads nowhere, especially not to you making any actual statements.
it’s fucking old, dude. again, you’re getting nowhere in this thread
got any more stupid questions?
This is not anything new, Ruth Bader Ginsberg was handsomely provided for her entire career for example. DC is a slimy place!
Bullshit. You’re trying to politely advocate for evil. What you’re doing is a corrupt mockery of “civic discussion!”
COVID-19 started in late 2019.
I didn’t know starting a global pandemic was one of the presidential powers but noted.
On a scale of 1-10 (1 being awful, 10 being excellent), how well do you think trump & his administration handled the COVID-19 pandemic?
A 3? He did give everyone some trump bucks. Honestly if he had given more to the people and promised more to the little guys instead of his rich pals, he might have won a second term on that alone. It wouldve been terrible, but people are fickle and stupid.
I think he lost all points when he started actively trying to make the pandemic worse
Thats very subjective, it wasnt just him, because im pretty sure biden has done worse with covid, trump barely dealt with it, but now biden has essentially made a it known that covid is over. No more mask, in fact lets ban them. Free covid tests? Nah 70 dollars now. Social distancing, no fuck you go back in the office.
These issues biden is facing while dealing with covid is the same issue trump had to deal with, corporate ass holes who want all the profits. People shit on trump because hes terrible, but to some degree his derangedness might have been a positive. Think of the alternative.
Hillary Rodam Clinton is one of the most paid off politician there ever was. The whole Clinton family is a disgrace to America. She and everyone else claims they wouldve done better, but i doubt Hilary actually would of. She comes off as the type that would’ve prolonged it even more if she ever did a shut down at all.
If he didn’t kill the pandemic response group, and just sat back letting Fauci do his literal job…that giant orange turd could have done nothing but continued golfing and coasted into reelection.
But because he’s a giant narcissistic megalomaniac whose paper-thin self-esteem was critically fractured when Obama hurt his fee-fees…he undid tons of Obama stuff out of spite and thought he and his people knew better than anyone else and highly politicized it.
6.5? Operation warp speed was by all accounts incredibly successful and saved tons of lives.
Just a reminder that the us had the most confirmed covid cases in the world, most confirmed covid deaths in the world, and the 13th highest rate of covid deaths in the world (worse than 92% of the rest of the world!). Oh and in 2019 Oregon just barely avoided having the US lose its “eradicated” status for measles which would make the US the only developed nation in the world to do so. Astoundingly the reason as to why these things happened was in question but surely record amounts of people remaining unvaccinated wasn’t a contributing factor. And surely having a president suggest such dynamite and wildly effective cures such as hydroxychloroquine, bleach, or literally suntanning your internal organs rather than a vaccine didn’t have any effect whatsoever.
Having the best data in the world isn’t the indictment you think it is.
Almost did by 2020.
Since 2016, it continues to spiral down the drain with every additional moron voicing support for and planning to vote for your boy, Trump.
Just because I dissented doesn’t mean he’s “my boy”
I’m gonna need them to create an account, log in, enable notifications, write a cover letter, and come talk to me at my workspace in person and then fill out this form three times for me to give a shit about rich people’s politics.
Tell me about your bank account you rich twats.
Fox was not a name I expected to see on there given all they’ve done to supercharge the right-wing, but I suppose even Murdoch isn’t crazy enough to actually think that it is a good idea to put Trump back in office
One of Murdoch’s younger sons has been giving money to Dems for years
They’re playing both sides, so they always come out on top. Politicians are exceptionally cheap, even for multi-millionaires.
There was a schism between the murdoch camp and the Trump camp after they called Arizona “super early” for Biden in 2020 and Trump threw a fit. That’s when NewsMax and OAN kinda became his preferred, publicly at least, news platforms.
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Like the Liz Cheney endorsement, I feel like Harris’s campaign should ask them not to. There’s not a big contingent of pro-CEO voters, and that contingent is probably going to vote republican anyway, but there’s a lot who sense their interests are diametrically opposed to the CEOs who’ve spent billions lobbying congress.
there’s a lot who sense their interests are diametrically opposed to the CEOs who’ve spent billions lobbying congress.
The donor class is willing to spend a lot of money to break those people and convince them that they’ll only ever get oligarchic bullshit or the blatant incompetence and violent bigotry of Republicans from their government
I bet these donations were at least implicitly contingent on being publicly announced like this
That’s an interesting point.
They’re rubbing our noses in it.
88, really? It couldn’t have been 87 or 89?
While they simultaneously donate to Republican PACs.
not sure if bad or marketing?
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Who does this intend to convince?
Gay, black, Norwegian metal fans.
big corporate donors?
Quoting the article,
The reason for the long list and the short letter is because the letter itself was not written to convince the general public to vote for Harris.
Instead, its purpose is to serve as a well-timed political show of force for Harris, who is locked in a very tight race, with the first presidential debate just four days away.
