Censorship is a real problem, but you don’t have to embrace it. That’s just making the problem worse.

  • @cAUzapNEAGLb
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    502 months ago

    I agree, I don’t like all the self censorship that I think comes about from algorithms like tiktok - I’m not talking about ideas, but instead about literal words replacement censorship like “unalive” “seggs” and that like

    I want people to be bold enough to use the real word - at least in irl conversation.

    It feels way too much like Orwell’s Newspeak

    • @[email protected]OP
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      232 months ago

      Exactly! I hate how corporations get to control our language now and people just fall in line with it.

      • sunzu2
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        92 months ago

        Bootlickers love corpos doing this and they enable it.

        Kinda like boomers provided political cover for corpos to fuck us over.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 months ago

          100%

          They voted in every horrible aspect of modern life, and cheered themselves despite their obvious, visible failings.

  • @tee900
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    192 months ago

    Its to avoid being censored actually. I think we get their gist when we are missing one letter. Depends on which platform that determines if it’s pointless or not but who cares.

    • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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      122 months ago

      If you’re gonna self censor then just use a different word. Self censoring is still caving in to censorship in general. Either say the full word uncensored or pick a different word. Anything else is just annoying to read.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 months ago

        I disagree with that. Content creators need to adapt to survive with the modern algorithms. Those algorithms are trash and the censorship behind it can eat a fat one, but the creators are just trying to get paid.

        Now, bringing that self-censorship into real life, into casual conversation with friends, off of platforms that are monetized… that is what annoys me. Not because they are difficult to read, that’s just an evolution of slang, but because it muddies the language and weakens our ability to communicate. “Unalive” instead of suicide or killed makes it seem less serious, less graphic, at least to me. And that’s the whole point of why they are using replacements in monetized content, because it is safer, but sometimes language needs to be harsher.

      • @tee900
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        32 months ago

        Why the fuck would that matter lol.

        Ideas are being censored by filtering words so if the idea comes across then its the same thing.

        Sorry for cursing.

        • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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          32 months ago

          At what point is fuck, shit, cock, cunt, pussy, bitch, slut, ass, or any other “bad” word an idea?

          If you’re gonna cave into censorship then fucking cave. Anything less is just pathetic.

          And no need to apologize. In all honesty please curse more. Fuck what snooty people think is uncouth.

          • @tee900
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            32 months ago

            Oh i kind of thought you were concerned with ideological expression being culled… but i guess you just want to cuss lmao.

            Arent you caving MORE if you use an entirely different word? Omitting a single letter means you express exactly what you intended to but using an entirely different word… holy shit thats like repressing your true self to please corporations… or something… sorry im not good at this.

            • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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              22 months ago

              You’re correct that I just want to cuss. But the two aren’t unrelated. If someone can decide certain words are inappropriate they can decide any words are inappropriate.

              My point about caving is if you’re gonna cave to their (whatever website/app) rules then cave completely. Don’t swear. At all. If you want to swear but can’t because of some bullshit terms of service then either protest by swearing brazenly or use a different word.

              If you’re not gonna spell it out then you’re already doing what they want.

              • @tee900
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                12 months ago

                Idk i just consider the important ethical questions of life and society and compare it to your disdain for asterisks and wonder why you walk this path. Seems really specific and im not sure who benefits.

    • Boozilla
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      142 months ago

      I worked for a buttoned-down suit & tie stick-up-their asses American financial institution back in the early 90s and I had this one coworker from Scotland who would curse a blue streak in every meeting / phone call. Anyone else would have been called before HR. He always got away with it. I think mostly because the suits couldn’t parse half of what he was saying. He would call out a lot of bullshit on projects, too. I fucking loved that guy.

  • snooggums
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    132 months ago

    A lot of the time they are doing it to avoid their posts coming up when malicious assholes search for posts about topics they want to argue about. I guess it works when those assholes are too lazy to try searching with wildcards.

    Also a lot of them do it because of habit from games or messaging apps that have language filters. It is a modern version of allowable cursing that older people learned as kids, like saying fudge instead of fuck.

    • @ThatWeirdGuy1001
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      22 months ago

      Euphemisms are not the same thing as self censoring.

  • @[email protected]
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    102 months ago

    It doesn’t make much sense anyway. You try to take away the power a word has or make it so it’s not readily available, but that just makes me wonder more about it.

    “The f word? Which f word?”

    “Why did they put an asterisk to hide ‘abuse’?”

    “F*cker” - great censoring. Nobody will ever be able to tell what that word was.

      • cobysev
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        32 months ago

        TikTok’s moderation is why people regularly say “un-alive” nowadays instead of “suicide.”

  • @[email protected]
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    82 months ago

    Young people are famous for not speaking out and not rebelling against authority.

    Oh wait.

      • @[email protected]
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        2 months ago

        Let me guess, you aren’t allowed to say anything these days? Kids are too damn sensitive?

        How about we get you to bed?

          • sunzu2
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            -52 months ago

            Not sure but while genz is complainant looking, they surely LARP a lot less corpo and regime koolaid than millenials, genx and boomers.

            I think they are the first gen majority non bootlickers, I would say millennials are 50/50

            With that said genz is very passive, I think due to how they grew up. They can’t handle any confrontation so they avoid it. But they are definitely not bootlickers or stupid they know we getting fucked

  • @zarathustra0
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    72 months ago

    Personal censorship has been around for a long time. People have always avoided saying things that others might view as weird or repulsive.

    The true change is that everyday conversation is more monitored now than it ever has been before.

    We have let insipidly authoritarian technology into our lives in an intimate way.

    • @lugal
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      32 months ago

      I live it t*o

  • JackbyDev
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    32 months ago

    It’s because more and more platforms (especially ones primarily used by younger people) are more likely to reduce the reach of their content when it has swear words in it. So many sites now push content to people or push content higher on search lists based on various factors. Content can be kept back even if it isn’t outright removed. So while it may be annoying to see people say stuff like “unalive” instead of “kill”, it’s entirely understandable.

  • @deafboy
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    22 months ago

    If you can’t say ‘fuck’, you can’t say ‘fuck David Cameron with a piece of slightly undercooked broccoli’

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    12 months ago

    I believe it’s what they learned growing up on YouTube/social media. Demonetization is why content is censored, but when perceived from a child’s eyes, without that context, it can easily be seen as “the norm”.