• @njm1314
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    Politics unfiltered from Fox News huh? Yeah not a lot of filters at Fox News are there?

    • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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      I get that you don’t like them, but they are a real news organization. Even if you hate the news they report.

      Wikipedia: The Fox News Channel (FNC), commonly known as Fox News, is an American multinational conservative news and political commentary television channel and website based in New York City. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News

      • @Burn_The_Right
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        but they are a real news organization

        Fox “News” disagrees with you. According to their own court testimony, they are NOT news and “no rational person would reasonably believe” their content to “be factual”.

        Fox “News” is tabloid entertainment, and they openly admit that under oath.

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          So if Fox News isn’t really a news organization, where’s the lawsuit to shut them down for falsely advertising themselves?

          The fact is, the Democrats—and every other critic—know they can’t legally do that, because even tabloids and entertainment shows have the right to report on real events.

          Court statements like “no rational person would reasonably believe…” are legal jargon used to dodge liability in lawsuits—it doesn’t suddenly strip them of being a news organization.

          If the content’s purely entertainment, then let’s see someone challenge their status. Until that happens, it’s all noise without substance, comrade.

          • @Burn_The_Right
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            where’s the lawsuit to shut them down for falsely advertising themselves?

            Conservatives (under Reagan) abolished the “Fairness Doctrine” that would allow such lawsuits to succeed. Reagan also vetoed a congressional attempt to codify (legally require) “news” organizations to operate in good faith and honesty.

            Very shortly after these changes by conservatives, AM radio and Fox News burst to life filling the airwaves with right-wing misinformation designed to make conservative morons angry at scapegoats.

            TL;DR: Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.

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              Ok, so it’s legal to call them “news” then. If it weren’t they wouldn’t be called “Fox News.”

              Dude, they’re a news org. I know you hate them. I understand. That’s ok. But they are still news, even if you hate them. There is no law against them or anyone calling them and treating them like a news org. That’s why they are still around.

              I’m not even conservative or voting conservative, and I can see that. Just accept it, friend.

              • @Burn_The_Right
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                it’s legal to call them “news”

                Legal does not equal Honest

                You are arguing in bad faith, as usual. Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

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                  You are arguing in bad faith, as usual

                  Explain how I’m arguing in bad faith? We weren’t talking about “honesty” we were talking legal stuff. And you brought up legal stuff. Everything I said was true.

                  Basically what you mean is that YOU don’t think they should be called a news org. And that YOU think it’s dishonest to say.

                  It doesn’t count as bad faith just because you disagree with it, friend. :)

                  Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

                  Cool! I’m not a conservative, so I don’t care.

              • @beebarfbadger
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                They are literally not news, at least according to the case where exactly that was litigated, BUT they are legally allowed to lie about that, insofar as calling themselves “news” is concerned. There’s a vast difference.

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        They’re not a real news organization, as they have argued in courts of law they are entertainment organization.

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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          they have argued in courts of law they are entertainment organization.

          Did the courts accept that defense, or did they hold them accountable as a news org?

          • @njm1314
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            You know they accepted the defense

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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              Actually I don’t. I haven’t looked it up and I also wasn’t even aware that they used that as a defense until you mentioned it. So are you saying the courts DID accept that defense and considered Fox News entertainment org, or did they accept that it was “entertainment news”?

              And even so, an entertainment org can still put out “news.” You’re not going to win this argument, comrade. They are a news org. Regardless of if you think it’s fake news, or entertainment news or whatever.

              Because if it were illegal to call them “news” the wouldn’t be able to call themselves “Fox News.” Plus the Democrat Party would definitely try to get a court order for them to change their name if that were the case.

              Also, just so you know, I’m not voting Republican anyway. :)

        • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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          Well then update the wikipedia article, comrade.

          Fox News has plenty of people watching them and voting based on the info they get, so you are gonna have a big fight on your hands. Good luck!

          • @njm1314
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            Lol, okay. A lot of people watch them and listen to what they say therefore they’re news. That’s the logic on politics unfiltered. Sure seems like there’s a lot of filters around here.

            • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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              So even though Wikipedia decided they are news, other news orgs consider them news, and practically half of the country considers them news, YOU are the one who’s right when you say they’re not news!?

              Is that what you are trying to get me to believe?

              • @njm1314
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                Not me, they’re the ones that say they’re not news. So here’s the question you have to ask yourself if half the people listen to their opinions and their opinion is they’re not news does that mean half the country thinks they’re not news?

                • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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                  So if Fox News isn’t really a news organization, where’s the lawsuit to shut them down for falsely advertising themselves?

                  The fact is, the Democrats—and every other critic—know they can’t legally do that, because even tabloids and entertainment shows have the right to report on real events.

                  Court statements like “no rational person would reasonably believe…” are legal jargon used to dodge liability in lawsuits—it doesn’t suddenly strip them of being a news organization.

                  If the content’s purely entertainment, then let’s see someone challenge their status. Until that happens, it’s all noise without substance.

                • Socialist Mormon SatanistOPM
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                  Yet, they still call themselves “Fox News” so they are not saying they are not news.

                  And to your question, I totally think that half the country thinks they are not news! And almost all of Lemmy agrees! lmao