And I refuse to get in a ring with Tyson…so, I can relate to his completely rational fear.
Just dodge when his outline flashes. After 90 seconds he starts throwing more normal punches and you can start doing some damage.
The election is going to be tight. Right now, Harris leads very, very slightly, by about three points. FiveThirtyEight placed the odds at about 53-47 as of yesterday (and they’re historically pretty good). Trump got his ass handed to him at the last debate, and he knows it. Unless he was able to git gud really fast, a 2nd debate would not improve his chances. Yes, he looks weak by not taking it on Fox of all places, but that’s better than taking it an doing just as badly a 2nd time. There’s almost no upside to him accepting an invitation to a debate.
But.
Trump is also incredibly egotistical. He wants to be on stage, and he thinks that he’s good at debating. He wants to be seen; he needs to be seen. Turning down free publicity to present himself first–and his policies a distant second–on a national television program witnessed by millions of people, that’s gotta hurt him.
He runs from a FOX hosted debate? He must be scared shitless of that woman!
For serious. That’s his cheer squad, guaranteed to try to help him. I thought she’d reject and he’d make a big deal out of it for the rest of the campaign. What a coward. Oh, Donnie. You shitbag.
I thought she’d reject and he’d make a big deal out of it for the rest of the campaign.
That was exactly what I was expecting, too. But hey, Donny saved us ;-)
He did so poorly during the last one that his handlers are sure to keep him away from that debate stage at any cost, especially when it’s so close to the election. They can’t afford to have him say more dumb shit because they don’t have gaffe-prone Joe Biden to grab soundbytes to play on repeat and the news will just report on Trump’s nonsense.
He’s making up so much ground, he does so much better when he stfu or just says the things people expect him to say.
The more time he spends away from national cameras the better, that debate was brutal for him, it made even his followers have some doubts.
Well, it did reveal what kind of idiot he is, so this debate was extremely useful for the voters.
Chickens naturally run from the fox
What a cuck.
All no cluck pluck?
Don’t Trump
Open Inside
Did fox just offer him the friendliest possible venue for a massive media event, days before the election, and he turned it down?
I presumed the plan was to either let the harris campaign say no to fox so trump could call her a coward, or get a friendly venue to hammer whatever comey-esque hillary’s emails nonsense russia cooks up this time.
Does trump turning this down seem like yet another own goal to anyone else? Or have I been underestimating how much the debate hurt him?
His cognitive decline might be accelerating too fast.
You may be underestimating the depth of the narcissistic wound Kamala dealt him at the debate.
Calling it now:
Since there’s not enough time left for him to recover from this brutal ego bruise, I predict he’ll only do rallies from now on, or appearances on far-right media, because he’ll retreat to his snowglobe for reassurance for a while. He’ll avoid addressing Kamala directly, but he’ll ramp up his own network and rile up his mob. His team will struggle to rein him in, and some appearances might be cancelled.
He’s been more restrained at his rallies than I expected (he’s unhinged, sure, but only mildly more so). It may take him years – if at all – to recover from being so thoroughly bodied by a minority woman.
I’m not saying anyone should care about him but I imagine two assassination attempts fucked with him too. He just announced rallies at Madison Square Garden and Coachella when he should be in swing states. People are trying to create rational reasons for it — like winning the House so he can steal the election — but I think he’s shook.
He’s picking venues that will let him get away with not paying them. He has a history of doing that, and many venues are telling his campaign no unless they pay upfront. Which is not a phrase he’s ever been familiar with.
but I think he’s shook.
Eh, I disagree. He lacks the self-introspection to be unnerved. After all, he did go back to Butler PA.
I believe it. The stories about him being deeply affected seemed plausible.
I suspect that the psychological effects of being nearly killed would operate below the level of self-introspection. Like trauma just happens and changes your behavior, whether you’re very self aware or a senile narcissist.
I think he’s just trying to coast on whatever popularity he has without fucking anything up. If anything this is probably the best call he could make. Which is why it’s probably someone close to him telling him not to do anything stupid. Because, let’s be honest, he’s so dumb he’d go for it in a heartbeat.
No doubt his counselors are telling him to STFU, ride it out.
And fuck all y’all (not you OP!) saying he’s always been this stupid. Been watching the man, more closely than I wanted to, over the last 6-years. His mind is circling the drain so fast even I’m stunned.
Harris could beat him on Fox, OAN, NewsMax or RT. She could do it anywhere and he knows it. He is a coward. If he had any backbone he would suggest another network.
Could she beat him in a box? Would she beat him with a fox? Could she beat him here or there? She would beat him anywhere!
She could beat him the air,
She could beat him just on hair!
She could beat him day and night,
It wouldn’t even be a fight!She’ll also catch him on the lam,
And we’ll eat green eggs and ham!Yes.
In the arena of the screen so bright,
Harris stands ready,
a formidable sight.
On Fox or OAN,
she’s sure to prevail,
NewsMax and RT,
she’ll tip the scale.
He trembles in shadows,
a coward at heart,
Knowing her strength sets him worlds apart.
If courage were his,
he’d seek a new stage,
But silence remains,
locked in his cage.
Not necessarily, if instead of taking his talking points from freaks like Laura Loomer, he focused on associating Kamala with the unpopular policies of the democratic party (especially the ones Trump agrees with), he could hurt her numbers.
For each republican policy the democrats adopted chasing “moderate republicans”, Trump can go “Kamala agrees shutting down the border and deporting all the brown people is a good thing. Who do you trust more to do it, America?”, apply that logic to dems’ “tough on crime” rhetoric, their foreign policy, their trade war with China, etc.
Trump can go “Kamala agrees shutting down the border and deporting all the brown people is a good thing. Who do you trust more to do it, America?”,
Kamala: “Trump told his own people to kill this bill, why would you trust him to actually go through with what he says?”
Most Americans trust the republicans to harm immigrants more than they do the democrats.
Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.
Democrats cannot outflank the republicans from the right.
Who says they need to outflank from the right? Literally all she has to say is that she’ll do the thing the republicans wanted and tanked on Donnie dipshits orders. That’s going too far as is for most left people on here, but it seems to be what the base wants, and all you really have to do is point out any of the myriad of times they’ve said something and done fuck all or intentionally killed it because it had democrats support.
Making the voters think the right is untrustworthy (because they are) has much more impact than trying to outflank.
Who says they need to outflank from the right?
That’s what the democrats are trying to do when they agree that classical republican policies are actually good and we need to do them.
it seems to be what the base wants
The people who were pro-immigration in every election until like 2022, but now support mass deportation want whatever the democrats tell them they want.
For some reason, the democrats have been telling them they want republican policies.
If meeting the republicans in the middle counts as trying to outflank them from the right, I don’t think you and I can have a productive conversation. This is disagreement on the meaning of basic terms and I’m not willing to try to hash out what words mean today.
Good day.
That might work for any other Republican but this is Trump. He’s the guy who tried to overturn the election, tried to force our allies to create scandals in exchange for aid, took care of Putin first during covid and told countless other lies. Any other Republican might be able to twist their record to win, but not him, his record it too extensive and insane.
“THERE WILL BE NO REMATCH,” Trump said on his Truth Social platform. “SO THERE IS NOTHING TO DEBATE.”
Trotting out the classics, huh? Big “If we did less testing, we’d have less COVID cases” energy.
Trump said it was very late in the process now to have a debate.
The second Presidential Debate in 2020 took place on Oct. 22nd. This invitation from Fox News is for Oct. 24th or 27th. And the original CNN debate was scheduled for Oct. 23rd so fuck right off with that excuse, coward.
And taxes when the audits are finished… He’s so helpless.
lol, what a coward. Won’t even do a debate on a platform that goes all out to suck his dick.
she put the fear in him
Republican former President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he will not debate Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris, hours after Fox News invited the two presidential contenders to participate in a possible second debate on either Oct. 24 or Oct. 27.
