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They aren’t organized by the Sate. They have no official authority. So they aren’t really a Militia.
They are a literal gang.
Stop calling them Militia.Militia isn’t defined by being part of the State.
It’s a term used to describe a military force comprised of civilians. There’s even a modern connotation of being against the state.
a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army.
Gangs aren’t purely for military purposes, so if the purpose of this gang is an armed attack against a govenrment agency, then it’s not unreasonable to call them a militia.
So a militia, comprised of terrorists… seems fair.
I don’t understand. Do you find that confusing?
Boiled down, “militia” doesn’t mean much more than “group of non-soldiers organised in a soldier sort of way with the intention of doing soldier sort of things”.
I think the term is private vs state militias, and with this article being about armed militias, we are talking about armed private vs armed state militias. I think technically all 50 states have laws on the books that prohobit various forms of private armed militia activity. Is it enforceable? Maybe, but that would maybe probably cause a nation wide incident given the amount of violence these groups can wield (though they would probably still lose against any organized state militias or any official state/federal military force), as well as increase the chance of a homegrown insurgency popping up. That’s just my armchair opinion or thought about it though, I’m just armchairing here.
Call them terrorists. That’s what they are.
paramilitars
So how about the cops do their fuckin jobs and go round up these people.
They did. The threat was established to be incorrect and the lone person making the threat was detained, and workers are back in the area.
Detained on a misdemeanor and released. It’s also not clear whether these are two separate reports.
The Washington Post article goes over the threats and there is nothing substantiating the armed militia.
It would be a bit odd to me for the national guard to report to the US Forestry that they saw an armed militia and wouldn’t be actively pursuing it. Seems more likely is was a miscommunication in a hectic environment.
Maybe some of them ARE cops.
Maybe?
They can’t be threatening FEMA and helping them!!!
Because that’s how you get reactionary keyboad warriors going “OMG ACAB WHY ARE THEY ARRESTING THEM THIS IS LITERALLY 1984” on every website and media outlet. Also, probably firefights, officer-involved shootings, and further inflammation of a situation that was fucked from the start.
People don’t tend to use their best judgement when blues are involved, especially in America.
Better that than people getting fucking murdered.
We’re talking about armed militia members hunting federal workers. I don’t think they’d take kindly to the presence of a blue uniform. I’d sooner send in the army and let the good god Darwin sort it out.
The area is a powder keg and you’re offering a matchstick.
So let them just go around murdering FEMA workers?
I’d love to have a simple solution for you that is fault-proof, pleases everyone, and can be explained in a ten-minutes-past-midnight comment. Believe me, I’d love to fix every wrong with society, but I can’t. Evacuation of the workers and letting the situation calm down is probably the best immediate action that results in the fewest lost lives. Again, the situation is fucked because of way too many stupid, aggressive people in the same place, and that’s a problem that can’t be fixed by force.
Cool. I’m just wondering how to stop FEMA people being murdered. I’m not concerned with pleasing anyone except their partners and kids when they see them come home in the evening.
The simple solution is to use the police and if there is an open fire fight send in the national guard.
This is a problem that’s gone too far and while we essentially might have a Waco on our hands there simply isn’t another solution. Either these sovereign citizens stand down or violence will be the result… I don’t know if you’ve seen any of their bullshit on YouTube but some of these fucks are too far gone to reason with and it’s an ideology that inevitably leads to violence. I’d rather it involve law enforcement than regular folks in the area.
But the police don’t control the weather to direct hurricanes towards Republicans.
They love to lick boots, he’s just giving them boots to lick.
If you’re talking about me, no. I just don’t want anyone to get murdered while trying to help disaster victims.
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Correct me if I’m wrong - isn’t FEMA a government organization.
As is people are literally hunting federal agents in a disaster zone?
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And where is the response to this?
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’
- Ronald Reagan, 1986.
Many Americans truly believe that all government is actively working against them.
…until they need help, in which case they cry for it hasn’t been swift and effective.
I wonder how many are on SNAP, medicaid or medicare?
The guy making the threat got arrested.
How are those fuckers not in jail?
This is why we can’t have nice things.
It really is. One of the reasons, anyway.
Another article said this is wrong. There was one 44 yr old from Bothic that’s been arrested but no militia… Yet.
Just to clarify, as far as I can tell, the trucks were reported by the National Guard to the US Forest Service who notified FEMA. The other was a call to a sheriff’s office about a single individual. It’s quite possible these are two actual but different things.
