• @[email protected]
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    Quick digging: source appears to be a reddit post from LA that is light on details. This is voter fraud if true but a grain of salt is warranted I believe.

    Here’s a pic of the back, according to the Reddit poster: https://imgur.com/y9XaKlr

    • @PlasticExistence
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      Assuming someone or some group of people are actually putting these in mailboxes to try to trick people, this is multiple federal felonies. It’s election fraud, and it’s a felony to tamper with a mailbox, mail fraud, I would guess conspiracy to commit fraud, and perhaps more.

      If true, I sincerely hope someone’s doorbell camera catches them in the act.

      • @Stovetop
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        281 month ago

        Depends. I feel like the fact that the packaging doesn’t explicitly state anything about using it for election mail is their loophole to say they never intended to trick anyone.

        It’s so thinly-veiled it’s disgusting…but the courts are still stacked by Trump appointees who will let his supporters get away with nearly anything.

        • @HappycamperNZ
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          81 month ago

          Fair point.

          Ok, so why did you distribute these?

          • @Stovetop
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            51 month ago

            And that’s the argument that would have to be decided in court. But with the conservative bias in judicial outcomes and the “guilty beyond reasonable doubt” prerequisite for determining felony status, I am not holding out much hope that anyone will actually see jail time for this. I don’t even know if this would get to the point where there’d be a trial, to be honest.

            People get unsolicited mail all the time, and as long as the sender paid their postage, the government typically doesn’t give a shit.

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        They could just be posting about it on social media? I feel like even that would be enough to dissuade some people to put their ballot in the mail.

    • @[email protected]
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      The Presidential Coalition is, and you’ll be shocked to learn it, a non profit organisation to support the conservative republican party.

      • @[email protected]
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        221 month ago

        Oh cool, the leader of The Presidential Coalition, the organization listed on the envelope, is responsible for Citizens United:

        The fuck responsible for Citizens United!? So tying that with what people are saying about all the felonies that this would fall under:

        But who am I kidding, these fucks never suffer consequences…

      • @DarkSpectrum
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        31 month ago

        Address is likely made up and its not meant to arrive anywhere.

        • @[email protected]
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          161 month ago

          It’s probably a real PO Box otherwise the mail might bounce back to the sender giving them a chance to still put it in a drop box.

          • @scutiger
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            91 month ago

            There’s no return address on the envelope, so it wouldn’t be returned to anyone.

            • @barsquid
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              51 month ago

              If the FEC had enough people on the board who were against election fraud they might do something about it.

    • @Jackcooper
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      41 month ago

      Los Angeles? Pretty confident none of their big races are gonna be turned by this

  • @x0x7
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    01 month ago

    What if we all just voted in person at a secure location? Wouldn’t that reduce opportunities for hijinks?

    • @mojofrododojo
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      11 month ago

      that’s great for the people who can get the day off to wait in line. for the vast majority of the population, that’s not convenient or practical.

      vote by mail is safe and effective, when chuds like this aren’t fucking with the process.