• @apfelwoiSchoppen
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    25 days ago

    This is as American as apple pie. In my city, they made the protected bike lanes so small that they can’t get street sweepers in so they’re filled with years is shit.

    • @[email protected]
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      1925 days ago

      Huh. My city invested in bike-lane sized snow plows and sweepers when they installed the lanes and they’re great!

      • @[email protected]
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        1125 days ago

        Some places make the bike lanes car lane sized so emergancy vehicles can use them to go around car congestion

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          25 days ago

          I mean, they do fit a car if you don’t mind only having a 1/2” clearance between the curbs. It’s pretty much a car lane with a line down the middle and those bars that can fold down, but lock in the middle to stop cars from entering.

          Not sure I’ve ever seen an emergency vehicle in one.

    • @[email protected]
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      525 days ago

      We have practically no bike lanes in my entire county. But there are a couple sections about a hundred feet long in different parts of the county. It’s a start I guess?

  • @FireRetardant
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    That bike lane doesn’t really look that safe anyway. With the amount of space it took, they could easily have installed more physical seperation like larger curbs, bollards, a line of trees. I don’t even see the texturing they use on the asphalt to warn drivers they are exiting their lane. The current design offers no protection against drunk or distracted driving. Even something as simple as a car pulling over for a firetruck could result in a collision with a cyclist.

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      25 days ago

      That white car further down in the picture demonstrates exactly why you need protected bike lanes. For crying out loud you could fit two cars in that lane and they still can’t stay inside it.

      • @FireRetardant
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        925 days ago

        Also a good argument for that texturing i was talking about. The driver may not be aware of how far over the line they are. With the texturing it is difficult to ignore the lines.

        • Rhaedas
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          625 days ago

          They aren’t aware, but I guarantee it’s not because of the markings. Probably looking at their phone.

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            25 days ago

            Yes, and if there was texture it would be felt in the car. The markings I’m refering are small bumps on or beside the line. They make the vehicle vibrate and produce a loud noise when a tire drives on them. It might make them look up from their phone

            • Rhaedas
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              225 days ago

              I see now. “Might”. I would much like the tree separation you mentioned, not only a physical barrier but a noise and wind breaker. But it would cost more… :(

              • @FireRetardant
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                My understanding is they are very cheap to install relatively speaking. All lanes should really have them, they are really useful even for regular driving. For example if you have to cross a shoulder line or center line it can give the driver a better idea of exactly where the line and their vehicle is. They also help find the shoulder or center line if some snow is covering the paint. If pulling over all the way onto the shoulder, you know when you are completely out the lane after the second set of vibrations.

    • @[email protected]
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      325 days ago

      Which is why I always ride on the sidewalk. In my city the bike lane (assuming there is one) is separated by nothing but a line of paint. You’d have to be suicidal to use that shit.

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    Why does it say “Lane Bike” on the road? Do people suddenly start reading from bottom to top when they’re driving?

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      1725 days ago

      Lots of markings on roads follow this pattern. I think the logic is that the closer (bottom) text comes into focus first.

      But yeah, when you look at it, it just looks backwards

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        725 days ago

        The problem is that humans are not Xerox machines and we don’t read by a direct line moving ahead of us, but instead we focus on objects. If the “LANE | BIKE” sign were separated by fifty feet it would be logical, as each line would be its own distinct object, but by having them so close it actually inhibits attribution.

        • @vxx
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          425 days ago

          I would argue that as soon as that’s the case and letters have to be spread far and wide, a sign might be more appropriate.

      • Ogmios
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        625 days ago

        I mean, I didn’t even notice it was written backwards until these comments, so obviously some of us have already learned to read it that way.

    • Andrew
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      125 days ago

      I think it’s how they do it in America (I was watching a video of James May reviewing a cybertruck, and he commented on markings that say things like “Xing Pedestrian”). It makes a certain kind of sense, I suppose.

  • @Sam_Bass
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    625 days ago

    especially when they have to go around the sign

    • @taiyang
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      425 days ago

      I thought I recognized that road! You see this shit all over OC, but at least there are places to bike.

      • @f314
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        225 days ago

        That bike lane is a place to bike in the same way a tightrope over some rapids is a bridge…

  • [email protected]
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    625 days ago

    Same kinda genius who programs it with “KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE ROAD”, but more dangerous.