So misogynist Musk went after a bunch of women for online harassment?
I hope they sue him. I seriously do.
And yet Blizzard gets criticized for their writing of villains being too obvious and over the top.
Writing cartoonishly evil villains is one thing, but the Lich King doesn’t hold a candle to Bobby Kotick
I can see why it would.
205 names?
That seems very low, tbh. I was kind of expecting more, this just feels like a weird power move.
this just feels like a weird power move.
That’s his entire thing.
It’s not about the cuts, it’s about sending a message.
Didn’t this guy ban the @elonjet account for doing a lesser version of this?
Yeah I think that’s the frustrating part of this. Either allow elonjet back or get banned for doing this. But having it both ways shows how shit a person Elon Musk is.
If anyone asks, to me, it’s THIS aspect of it that’s the big problem. Musk is literally doing the thing that he hated about elonjet.
He’s always been a hypocrite and entirely untrustworthy. If you believe he is doing ANYTHING in good faith, it’s kind of on you at this point. If people stopped interacting with these fucking musk articles we wouldnt see them every 2 seconds.
The thing he hated about Elonjet was that it targeted him.
Screw them and hold on to your job for as long and as hard as you can.
Sure one person fighting is nothing to a billionaire … but a few thousand employees taking the government to court for this stupidity will definitely affect the billionaire.
Authoritarianism wins as soon as we all just give up and allow them to take control.
Over half of federal workers are unionized so if Elmo fucks around too much, he just may find out. Many government workers are getting below market rates in exchange for good benefits, security and some sense of helping the commonwealth. They did not sign up for dealing with this chucklefuck. Replacing a bunch of sysadmins, accountants, lawyers and scientists at government pay levels would be challenging.
Thats the trick… They don’t intend to replace them. This is a thinly disguised austerity measure, intended to cripple agencies to later “show” their ineffectiveness.
Court costs and being out of work are both fun. But, as it turns out, personal justice is way less important than the food/clothing/shelter triumvirate the money can fund instead of legal fights.
And what’s why musk will win.
100% this. Not only that, but if you quit you can’t apply for unemployment.
You also can’t resist and annoy the fascists as easily.
So you only stand for something if you get unemployment?
It’s much easier to tell somebody else to sacrifice than do it yourself isn’t it?
So you only stand for something if you get unemployment?
WTF Indeed, yes it’s more impressive to stand for something if you are willing to sacrifice your whole life, be willing to live on the streets etc…
Fact is there’s not that many people that can do that. There’s no safety nets in this country, losing your job isn’t just the possibility of having to move to a smaller house, it’s the possibility of begging friends and family to stay with them, as the bottom rung of employment isn’t even enough to afford a 1 bedroom apartment, and that’s of course assuming only you are the one to pay that price, IE wife, kids who need college etc…
Godwin time here, as much as everyone wants to say they’d be the person who hid jews in their attic in ww2, reality is while you can applaud those who did, you can’t really look down on those who didn’t. The risks of completely ruining not just your own life, but the lives of those who you care the most about, to save complete strangers, is not a decision that is ever a given for anyone to make.
The reality of living in this country is a factor. Not everyone is in a position financially to quit their job and probably blacklisted from their industry.
We do not have an adequate social safety net in this country. To be able to make principled stands without having to worry about your future prospects, you’d have to be independently wealthy, like the fuckers doing this shit. And that’s entirely by design with the policies they’ve made happen over the last 60+ years. Over a quarter of this country lives paycheck to paycheck now, that will include a lot of federal employees.
This just means you don’t stand for anything but your address.
I’m finding I have even less support and sympathy for those in DC than I thought. They need hardship.
Ah, so a couple questions to see if you’re just a fucking idiot that thinks idealism can be reality, or if you’re even relevant to the conversation.
- Are you American or otherwise working in the United States currently?
- If so, how long would you be able to survive if you were to be fired or quit and not be able to work in your same industry? Meaning you would be starting off in an entry level role probably in unskilled labor, because most government workers aren’t in charge, they’re working desk jobs to make things function or doing some sort of inspection work, neither of which usually need college educations.
- If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US.
Most of that user’s comments have been removed (with good reason), so I’m guessing they’re just a troll (aka an idiot).
Deleted not removed. It’s like saying a Reddit account is meaningless because most of the comments were deleted.
If you’re not American, your opinion on this honestly means very little here since you do not have experience with working in the US
Former J1+H1 counterexample right here.
I shortened the last sentence. The 1st point literally covers that type of scenario.
But that’s cool. Taking things out of context on purpose to manufacture a point is literally what the internet does best.
- American
- If fired could live for a while, would probably lose home. Have lived homeless.
- N/A
These are people choosing their home over their principles.
Some of us have children who depend on us.
Do you have a family? Kids? Anyone you are responsible for? Would you be so flippant about making them homeless?
These are people choosing their home over their principles.
Okay you’re one of those people. This conversation is pointless. Have a good day.
What even is your point here? My reading: “Ooh look how tough you are, see how you feel when you lose your job!”
So you only
Not only that
I’m not sure what you missed there
The government is going to round them up soon enough.
The public learning that efficiency is billionaire’s dog whistle for mass layoffs.
Wow more efficient! My job will get easier!
This from the guy who smoked weed on the Joe Rogan p;dcast, talked about how he does ketamine at parties, and has been talking to Pootles for the last year, all while having a security clearance. Yeah
How’s Rogan even allowed to own a gun?
His friends are cops who don’t care. They get different rules from us.
I would like to publicize the name of a piece of human shit: Elon Musk. I would also like to cut him from the government as well.
DOGE isn’t an actual department with any power, as it wasn’t created by an act of Congress. I guess Elon’s power will just be telling Trump who to fire?
Honestly, I’m half expecting some disenfranchised kid to learn from the Ukrainian conflict, and take one of these muppets out with a drone. It’s pretty tricky to shoot even as large a target as trump with his security cordon, but this pillock wanders around in public, and it really would be pretty ironic for someone to live-stream the tech-daddy moron getting fpv’d into a fine paste
Imagine if we could cut Musk and spend his trillion $ on infrastructure
Honestly fuck federal workers as a whole. I spent 6 months working under the USCG through DHS and every single last civilian worker was either a nepotism hire, married to a service member and got handed the job, outright incompetent, or some combination of the 3. Trying to get in touch with ANYONE from HR was a 2 week wait minimum to answer the most basic questions, and it’s a coin flip whether the answer you got was even relevant to what you originally asked. I have never worked with a lazier bunch of entitled shitbags as I have in federal employment.
They deserve every bad thing happening and more.
Don’t like him and not sure how well this is gonna work out BUT there are too many useless people in government jobs in a lot of countries and with their work ethic they often couldn’t hold jobs in the more competitive free market so I agree with the core principle of what they want to do, but I am sure the approach will be total ass.
The problems in government are structural and systematic, not individual. The bureaucracy was built into what it is through the accumulation of regulations, poorly implemented policies and agendas, as well as plain mismanagement. Likewise, when the cost of a failed project is a political shitstorm and a parliamentary enquiry, and beyond that you are expected to be entirely accountable and transparent, you need to be risk averse.
You can’t just fix these issues by proclaiming to fire everyone. You need to fix structural and leadership problems.
Yes, there is a shit ton of dead weight in the government contractor sector, just soaking up that delicious tax money for minimal effort. But I have a feeling these aren’t the employees being targeted right now.
That’d be cutting federal contracts. I read the headline as dealing with people employed directly by the federal government, not indirectly hired through private companies.
I am you that it’d be a much better way to cut fat from the budget.
We just those useless folks Congress. But, seriously we can’t let a few lazies clogging up the works be the reason to allow Republicans to continue destroying our institutions.
So quit. You provide a valuable service. Don’t do it anymore.
If Govt services cease to function they fail.
Trump wants to kill branches, then show why they were made by their absence.
If Govt services cease to function they fail
And thousands if not millions of people die, depending on how long it goes on for.
Personally I like to keep getting paychecks while I line up my next job opportunity
Malicious compliance. Do what you’re told, exactly what you’re told, no more, no less. Have you been doing “something” that nobody has told you to do, that’s outside of your job description? Stop doing that thing.
Make sure you take your time. Don’t hurry. Haste burns you out, stop it. Do not start working before the start of your day, and do not work past the end of it. If you are doing this, you are enabling wage theft. Go home, your time belongs to you.
The trick is to practice malicious compliance that targets Trump, and not American citizens who want watchdogs.
Trump wants to run these agencies his way, with his people? Fine. In the context of people who need to keep drawing a paycheck, doing exactly as you’re told is appropriate.
Will this undermine these agencies? Of course, because they’re being run Trump’s way, with Trump’s people in charge. Will innocent bystanders experience fallout from this? Of course, because [same as above].
There’s no going back to the way it was. The only way out is through, and the quicker we get to the tipping point, the better.
The agency wasn’t formed for your wages.
The bureaucracy only matters when it functions or obstructs.
So do nothing and don’t matter.
If Govt services cease to function they fail.
Not sure if you haven’t noticed somehow… that’s exactly what the Republican party campaigns on and has been doing for the past 60+ years.
They literally campaign on the idea that Government does not work. They get into office, then don’t do the job well, proving that it doesn’t work well. All while reducing funding and cutting programs until they fail. People that actually know what they’re doing leaving just helps them.
Trump wants to kill branches, then show why they were made by their absence.
They don’t want any of those programs or services, because they don’t give a shit about them. The wealthy don’t care about public education, their kids go to private schools. An educated workforce is harder to control. Critical thinking is a threat to propaganda. They don’t care about you wiling situation as long as they keep their quality of life at the top, which just requires money, which they make through indirect means off the back of everyday workers in destitution. They’d rather you be in jail for a bullshit offense where slave labor is literally still legal. Don’t have to pay the inmates.
The programs they want still get plenty of funding and are in no danger. Things like the military and anything that can support the wealthy who don’t need it.
Don’t quit. Government workers are entitled to more recourse than normal employees if they are going to be fired. Usually you can’t just fire them for no reason.
Quitting would also prevent severance pay.
Sue for defamation. He called your work “fake jobs”. Now his followers are threatening your life.
Class action?
So quit. You provide a valuable service. Don’t do it anymore.
That’s what Musk is trying to do. Intimidate folks into quitting. So you’re just basically saying let Elon do the thing Elon wants to do.
If Govt services cease to function they fail
Yeah, that’s not the outcome anyone should want. When a function fails, we can’t just pop it back up when Trump isn’t President again. I had to go over this with the Trump term one tariffs. The reason Biden didn’t do away with them is because we violated the trade agreement to implement them. Once we violated the agreement, it doesn’t matter anymore what anyone does. It’s not fixable anymore. We have to go through decades worth of regaining political favor with the foreign country to repair it.
Same thing here. When the service fails, we can’t just pop it back up once Trump is no longer in office. If people start to hurt because a function fails, those people are going to be hurting for decades while we try to repair the damage. It’s one of those stack of cups kind of thing. It takes a significant amount of time to stack the cups compared to the half a second it takes to knock them all down.
then show why they were made by their absence
All that’s saying is that the next two decades should be complete shit for everyone except the insanely wealthy. I would rather not have that lesson, I don’t think it’s required. I also don’t think a lot of people would even learn the lesson even if they experienced it first hand.
They’re working class people and the job market is shit. “Just quit” is a much bigger statement when you don’t have another job lined up and have bills to pay.
They took a political position. They have a stance no matter what. Right now if they keep working that means they support Trump.
Civil service positions are apolitical. You are supposed to do them regardless of which party is in charge. That’s the whole point. Otherwise literally nothing would ever get done.
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In office? What are you talking about?
Civil service jobs are not elected positions.
What the fuck are you talking about? They had a job doing whatever random thing they were paid to do. Keep airplanes from falling out of the sky, checking water quality, doing accounting… The right always politicizes government jobs. For example, they under funded the 2020 Census in areas that had left leaning growth. That directly impacts the number of congressional seats.
That’s a really bad take. A) Doing a job which is not specifically to carry out Trump’s will is not supporting him. B) Federal jobs are not inherently political, in fact very few are. C) even if they were in positions to effect political outcomes, they could use those positions to counter Trump’s agenda. They can’t do that if they quit. D) Nobody should be expected to abandon their livelihood for themselves and their families because they are tenuously, barely, kind of in a position that forwards Trump’s administrations policies. A USDA meat inspector quiting to spurnTrump will do nothing to Trump and yet ruin their career.
“If you don’t like this country, move somewhere else” energy
That’s exactly what they want and I guarantee they will make it difficult for most employees so they do quit. An employee that quits on his own is a lot less expensive to the company then a fired one.
A indefinite strike until musk is fired from his position in the goverment however…
That’s exactly what they want and I guarantee they will make it difficult for most employees so they do quit.
They’ve already explained that as their strategy… first thing they are targetting is removing remote work? Why, because they know some people don’t want to work in the office, and that’s a good way to get a lot of them to quit.
Thumbs up. My only issue is limiting it to Musk.
