Is this a bic pen situation?
This is one huge problem I have had with gun control advocates. In Canada they are basically banning all rifles that look ‘military’. The problem? All, and I mean ALL semi-auto rifles now look like that. Even ones that still have wooden furniture like a pre-WW2 era rifle can have them swapped out for black polymer and ‘look’ modern.
Even lever guns are sporting serious polymer furniture that make them look like sci-fi western guns.
The definition of ‘military style’ gun was created in the late 80s when your average gun owner was still owning their vintage ww2 surplus rifle (from the 1960s to 70s WW2 era rifles were so common on the market that there wasn’t that much room for anything truly new) that had that old school look while all new military rifles had switched to polymers and had protruding pistol grips.
The rhetoric has remained the same despite almost 40 years passing and a lot of basic changes.
Someone needs to come up with a kit to make an AR look like the rifles at the top
All you have to do is buy a Mini-14 from Ruger instead of an AR to accomplish that.
Mini-14 is now prohib in Canada as of 2020. They say they did it because of the Polytechnique shooting in 1989, but they had passed sweeping gun legislation in the 90s already. It is kinda incredible how that shooting is still the number 1 talking point and they’ve practically competely forgotten about the Nova Scotia shooting in 2020. I think it is because they are well aware that the 2020 shooting was done pretty much entirely with firearms smuggled in from the US. And the one gun that he had that was sourced in Canada the RCMP let him have due to a major league fuckup when they had all the right to just take it.
Also he was forbidden from owning firearms well before the shooting. Despite countless complaints that he had guns and seemed to be planning something fucked, they chose to do nothing, as usual.
It’s funny how gun control is a legitimately important issue but some of its biggest and loudest advocates are more interested in looking busy and being ‘tough’ on guns rather than addressing actual problems.
Too easy
There already is.
1911s being from 1911 make my head spin.
1911 is the crocodile of guns. You can’t improve upon perfection.
I certainly love my Kimber 1911, I’ve never shot a 45 that groups as well as it
The best way I’ve ever heard it described, “It’s the gun that forgot to become obsolete.”
The M2 is almost as old. Both are still in service around the world. Both are John Browning designs.
It will never stop being funny to me that both the M2 and the 1911 are (according to scifi-fantasy franchise Warhammer 40.000) still in use in the 41st Millennium.
If it ain’t broke,
I’m not sure why this suprises people.
M2 Browning was bolted to basically everything american in ww2 and that was 80-90 years ago. It’s an old weapon
68 yr ago technically.
Ummm acktually the A2 developemnt began in 1979, which makes it 45 years old.
(Psssst, that was the “technically” part.)
Nah, the design of the A2 is uniquely different, if we want to be technically pedantic.
May I introduce you to the concept of technicalities.
Using this example to illustrate, technically the AR-15 and the M16a2 are the same platform, just with a few minor changes like the furniture. I mean we’re not considering the M4 a completely different platform just because of the feed ramps, are we? The second you swap from a quad rail to a free float system does it cease being an ar15? No not really, it’s still the same gun, but there are minor changes that only matter on clone rifles (which are usually not 100% anyway, why you only have two pinholes hmm?)
So, technically the A2 is different from the A1, and technically the A1 is different from the first ar15s with the addition of the forward assist, but technically they’re also all the same platform, at least close enough to say they’re the same thing. Thus: “Technically.”
Thank you for coming to my technicality Ted talk.
few minor changes like the furniture
And the fire control group, and the barrel design, and the reenforcement on the back of the receiver. The redesign of the sights is not merely cosmetic as fixed sights are more tied to rifles than removable. With those, and the other changes all standardized into one design.
And that somehow makes it a different platform than before, which is why they called it the m16a2 instead of the m17? We’re talking the Rifle of Theseus here.
So if I put together some magpul flippy bois, an FRT, a pencil barrel, and a Hoffman lower, is it not an ar15?
Nam was fifty years ago, I think most people would think Hueys and M16s when asked that question.
When I joined the Army in 1994, my unit still had m16a1
Information that appeared to me in a dream confirms that the US Army was still issuing M16A1 lowers into the 2000s.
I went to basic in 93 and we had A1’s in basic but my unit (101st) had A2’s for everyone, at least for the combat arms guys.
We were using A2s back then. I would have loved to get my hands on an A1 though. Fully auto? Yes please!
I’m not seeing a difference
