• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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    344 minutes ago

    They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”

  • مهما طال الليل
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    They are terrified. He did terrorize their class. So maybe just maybe being a terrorist isn’t bad, it depends on who you terrorize?

    • @KneeTitts
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      193 hours ago

      funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

      • @knexcar
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        61 hour ago

        Seems like most Americans are pro Luigi, but the government isn’t

      • Ignotum
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        The kids were already born, they don’t give a shit about them after that

  • @[email protected]
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    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

    • @[email protected]
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      This is kinda the OG definition of terrorism actually. Back when 19th century anarchists invented this hot new direct action political tactic called terrorism. It was all the rage, for a while, but it backfired and increased public sympathy towards the bourgeoisie and the nobility.

    • @[email protected]
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      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

  • NutWrench
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    325 hours ago

    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

    • @Olgratin_Magmatoe
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      Let’s hope. But as we all know truth is financially dictated in our “justice” system, so it is a gamble.

  • @[email protected]
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    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

    • @[email protected]
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      164 hours ago

      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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    That might be a good thing, because making a terrorism charge stick is going to be should in a just world be really really difficult.

    • @brucethemoose
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      Is it a separate charge?

      He can still be convicted for 1st degree.

    • @[email protected]
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      I thought you could just mutter terrorism under your breath and then say 9/11 and stick them in a cell forever.

    • @wpb
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      If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this

      • atro_city
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        For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren’t the only elections.

    • @sumguyonline
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      If only the American people weren’t addicted to republicans and democrats. This might not happen.

      • @[email protected]
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        295 hours ago

        Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.

        Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.

        • atro_city
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          Step 1 is voting for people who want to change the system - and they do exist

          • @[email protected]
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            33 hours ago

            Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success

            • atro_city
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              Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.

      • @iAvicenna
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        if only American politics wasn’t so organically intertwined with billionaires…

        • @Klear
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          43 hours ago

          Has to be.

          Right?

      • @KneeTitts
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        73 hours ago

        I voted for Jill Stein, don’t blame me

        how did you not hand the US to amerikkkan oligarchy?

        • @riodoro1
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          How to trigger an american?

          Tell them you voted third party. Yes, the two party system is perfectly ok.

  • @sumguyonline
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    Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.

  • @robocall
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    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

    • @Dasus
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      If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they’re suspected of terrorism. That’s why everything is “terrorism” these days, because under that accusation they’ll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It’s tyranny.

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        Still, as a person not interested (usually) in agreeing with my counterparts, notice how this is a “good guy with a gun” situation. So maybe militia movement has a point. They just don’t know how to use their correctness outside of their one part of society’s fabric, but that’s up to those who know those other parts. Cooperation and collaboration, all that.

        And almost any “good guy with a gun” can be called a terrorist formally. It’s an arbitrary separation.

        So maybe gun rights really are human rights.

        You’ve probably noticed how in any group the best decisions are made when every opinion is respected, and if it’s incomprehensible, made comprehensible with good and kind effort, and where aggression and expulsion are minimized.

        It’s the same in politics.

        • @kerrigan778
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          Lefty here, yes, that is what we, including George Orwell, have been saying for years.

          • @rottingleaf
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            Yes, my aunts, uncle and cousin live in a country reproducing “Animal farm” the last 6 years, with the end goal of being occupied and turned into a reservation. That book is more like reality than many would think.

            • @kerrigan778
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              Among the greatest books ever written

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    As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

    I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

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      On the plus side, maybe this will actually result in some kind of reasonable gun legislation that will trickle down to a reduction of general gun violence. Maybe. Hopefully. Sometimes all it takes is showing the leopard party that their faces are also in danger.

    • Dragon Rider (drag)
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      -2810 hours ago

      People aren’t all the same species. People with human bodies come in lots of species on the inside. For example, drag has a pet dragon whose body is human. The world is much more interesting after you realise everyone’s different.

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        For example, drag has a pet dragon whose body is human.

        Yeah, I’m all for pronouns and shit, but no. You don’t.

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        You have a pet human? Is that like a sex thing?

          • @robocall
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            Does drag have any pet dragons in a human body? Is that pet dragon a sex thing?

              • @robocall
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                Ahh, so that’s why you are the dragon rider 😉

        • @DogWater
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          Because this multiple species take has been a basis of slavery in the past.

          people aren’t realizing this is that crazy guy who thinks he’s a dragon and refers to himself in third person.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)
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            Drag doesn’t use he/him pronouns, and doesn’t identify as a guy. You’re allowed to disagree with drag’s gender identity and think trans people should only be allowed to identify as genders you approve of, but assigning an entirely new gender onto drag is taking things a bit too far.

              • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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                They said they have a pet dragon whose body is human. I’m not sure how to parse that, but it could be quite disturbing.

                • @[email protected]
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                  09 hours ago

                  It is disturbing to have a body that doesn’t align with my species. If you mean my very existence makes you uncomfortable then kindly shut the fuck up and live and let live.

              • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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                I’m very confused by your statement that you have a pet dragon whose body is human.

                • Dragon Rider (drag)
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                  Well you see, drag is a dragon rider, and drag the dragon rider rides a dragon. If you’d like to know more about this kind of relationship, you should read Eragon.

  • @Sam_Bass
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    Because all the dainty little devils are terrified

  • @Donkter
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    Unfortunately, the people doing it are the media It’s a quintessential “man bites dog” story. Normally it’s the insurance companies killing civilians. Everyone is going to cover it. The police had a manhunt because it would look ridiculous if they didn’t solve such a high-profile case.

    It’s kind of a symbiotic relationship, the media covers it, the police react harshly, the media covers it more.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      You know what looks even more ridiculous? Only taking action on anything when the victims are wealthy. Go read about how ridiculously lax NYC laws against crime are. But some rich dude gets shot and all of the sudden the cops are Columbo, and the court prosecutors are Matlock (yes I’m aware how old those references make me seem).

  • @jaybone
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    What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?

    • deaf_fish
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      Billionaires are reading this post and thoughtfully taking notes.

  • @[email protected]
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    2414 hours ago

    This is because the Government with Republicans and Neo Liberals are about business interests over the American people. People need to just start sharing their denials from United healthcare every time they right a piece how Luigi is evil. So tired of this bullshit. And here is another thought pro lifers need to start protesting for universal healthcare to be consistent.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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      False! Corporations are people in the eyes of the law, and the only “people” who matter to the institutions.

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      They’ll make it illegal to share “sensitive information” like healthcare insurance denials, and they’ll punish you for releasing your own sensitive information.

      And then they’ll go after anyone reposting it for violating your rights, they’ll charge them on your behalf regardless of whether you protest that you don’t want to charge them.

      They’ll violate you in weird ways.

    • deaf_fish
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      Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.

      This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        89 hours ago

        Translation: majority shareholders

        Translation: the obscenely wealthy that run the country