Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that these police probably suffer as much as the people they are oppressing?
I don’t think that’s logically a possibility? Not unless the police also have a group of thugs that can assault them without consequence.
Being a lapdog of the capital class has its benefits. The police have some of the strongest unions in the nation and are way way overcompensated for their level of training and education.
We cannot have a tiny number of very rich elite without a very large number of working class serving the interests of those rich elite rather than their own.
Security varies. Some are class traitors, some just need that paycheck.
If there was ever any question about who the police truly protect, this should clarify it.
According to the gun control pushed by liberals, they want to rely on these people for their personal safety.
Never thought this, smart
What do you think liberals mean when they say gun control?
Folks who make posts like that are incapable of distinguishing between “we’re coming for your guns” and “we’d like to ensure everyone is a bit safer with their guns.”
Yeah, very much has vibes of “and yet you participate in society, curious! I am very intelligent.”
There’s a Netflix documentary about the police. Very interesting and they are not on worker’s side.
That’s how solidarity works (Cops and private property)
Now its your turn
Smash?
but when it’s the cop’s union under scrutiny, they stand united.
because it’s getting them off of a murder rap
Why is everyone surprised … this what the police have always done against striking workers.
By design they are meant to maintain law and order … not to serve and protect people … the whole ‘serve and protect’ phrase was marketing campaign by the LAPD created by police propaganda in the 1960s and it didn’t have any actual obligation for the police to serve or to protect people … it was just a catchy phrase that made the police sound good when they in fact could do the opposite or nothing at all. But no matter how they treated people, they always throughout history have always consistently protected wealth, property and those with power.
By design they are meant to maintain law and order
Not at all or qualified immunity, officer and prosecutorial discretion wouldn’t exist.
… not to serve and protect people
Correct, they’re asset protection for the highest earners.
If they truly were meant to uphold the law, they would be held to the highest standards of said law and prosecuted for the slightest deviation from it.
Correct.
Nicely summarized in Robocop.
Why is everyone surprised …
Nice to have a bit of physical imagery to wave around when you’re dealing with a liberal who insists police are these neutral non-partisan agents.
Not that it’ll necessarily work, of course. I can already hear some pensioner with a Harris sticker insisting that “um, aktuly, its the union that’s being violent and the police who are being civil and restrained”. But for the younger and more clear-eyed, its a damning current indictment of a system you mostly just read about in history books.
What kind of liberals do you know that would stick up for the police!?
Old people I’d imagine, tho throwing the Liberal blanket on them seems pretty disingenuous. Old folks gonna be old
They do this… unless it’s their own union, Then they don’t!
There’s nothing more perverse than a cop union.
Teen Vogue (I know, right?): Police Unions: What to Know and Why They Don’t Belong in the Labor Movement
This is at it’s core the police problem. They are class traitors.
They’re not traitors … they never had any loyalty to the population to begin with
They were created to ‘maintain law and order’ … not some fanciful idea of protecting or serving people.
Police are working-class ergo they are class traitors.
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Getting libs to develop class consciousness can feel like a Sisyphean task.
maybe we just need minor reforms and more capitalism
Real capitalism has never been tried!
hey guys! make sure everyone goes out and votes! nothing more important in a democracy than voting! 😁
damn we missed our chance at political action for another 4 years, let’s go into cold storage until it’s time to vote against the worst candidate in favor of the slightly less bad candidate.
How are they traitors if they never ever worked for that class in the first place (in USAs case)?
Edit: to clarify, it’s a joke in the sense that that was the core job description
It’s not about working for a class, it’s about being part of that class.
Police, whether we like them or not, are also part of the working class. They are class traitors in that respect. They serve the ownership class and fight “their own.”
There are a class of people that own capital to make capital, and there are a class that labor to acquire capital.
The cops labor to acquire capital on behalf of the class that owns capital to make capital that does no labor.
Yes, ofc, the comment was intended as a joke - all dogs serve a master, won’t ever be masters, and are “betraying” wolves by not allowing then to get to the sheep (which they also can’t/arent allowed to get).
Ahh that’s a “whoooosh” on me then lol
Blue collar working-class, I’d say. What class are they then? Not all goldfish living in a buble know they are goldfish living in a buble…
Solidarity for Bezos and his yachts, can’t have him suffer from these rabblerousers living paycheque to paycheque taking a stand - NYPD.
Taxpayers. We’re the fucking taxpayers. This is after NY gave Amazon $3.5B in tax breaks.
We’re the fucking taxpayers.
That’s the joke of modern capitalist liberal democracy. It’s not the people paying the rents who are in charge. It’s the folks collecting.
That’s just how our country works. It’s by design.
They’re just gonna keep taking shit until you see their face on the front page of Lemmy next to a angry looking dude in an orange jumpsuit.
As is the tradition.
This is why All Cops Are Bastards: their primary purpose is to protect private property, AKA the means of production.
I was having a think about that and realized it needs to be AACAB because in my country cops are definitely not bastards.
“Policing Enables Bastards”
A shorter phrase allowing for exceptions, e.g. a sheriff in town of thirty people who works one year and retires (without covering for dirty colleagues or breaking strikes etc.)
Policing = being a bastard
Police are class traitors. They have abandoned their working class communities in favor of being given a privileged position in society and being the one who pulls the trigger on working class people themselves. They are scum, all of them. There is no exception. Being a police officer is being scum. Once you’ve chosen to be a police officer you are no longer a member of the working class. You are now an agent of state violence dedicated to protecting the ruling class. It’s the whole reason police exist at all.
Still a bastard
If I join their ranks for a day to leak their brutality “we investigated ourselves and found we’ve done nothing wrong“ files I’m a bastard. No leaks from me then.
Implications of law of large numbers distracts from otherwise understandable arguments.
ACAB
-Sith
Who said that? Or did you just make up that story to avoid having your beliefs challenged?
Hmm, sorry - I took my sheriff example to the extreme and assumed it would still fall under your bastard definition, which sounded like guilt by association.
Given how many cops there are out there, I know that at least one new hire was chill and reported colleagues the first time they saw bad behavior, then got fired for it. I don’t like to call whistleblowers “bastards“ even when urgently describing an important and systemic issue.
To me, that’s a perfect example of why all cops are bastards. That person is no longer a cop, so it doesn’t apply to them. But all the bastards didn’t like having their awful behavior called out and pushed out the non-bastard. Thus all cops are bastards.
this the corniest shit I’ve ever fucking seen lmfao
Why are they all so fat? Seems like they need to re-up the physical fitness exams.
They brought the tanks out to hold the line
Thicc blue line
They might be, but it’s also winter and they are wearing big jackets and a bullet proof vest.
Remember when Police Officers watched a bunch of Children Die in Uvalde? LoL!
“You’re not doing your jobs!”
“Alright then, we’ll do our job.”
“NO! NOT LIKE THAT!”
Okay, what are they actually specifically doing though? Making a wall so that…?
They’re helping break a strike like good little oligarchy stooges.
Right, but how is what they’re doing breaking the strike?
Im assuming they are opening a gap in the line.
Yes, but I don’t want assumptions. I want facts
I want more people to be able to understand simple things based on context clues.
A lot of people here are completely unable to understand context clues. It’s disheartening at times.
Looks like they’re making a corridor so that scabs can get in and warehouse supplies can get out. Cops put themselves in between the business and the strikers so that they can treat any conflict with the business as an attack on the “neutral” police.
Israeli settlers employ similar tactics in Gaza. You’ll have civilians go into Palestinian homes and onto Palestinian worksites, set up makeshift structures, and declare the property there’s. Then the IDF hover over their shoulders, ready to open fire on any Palestinian who confronts the settler.
In this case, the cops on the line aren’t the ones you need to worry about. It’s the cops waiting at the APC ready to charge in, crack heads, grab picketers, and drag them to jail if any of the first group cries foul that you have to worry about.
It “looks” like the police are protecting delivery trucks, and blocking strikers from the drive. They’re preventing the strikers from walking across the drive and hindering deliveries.
