In the survey from NORC at the University of Chicago, about 8 in 10 U.S. adults said the person who committed the killing has “a great deal” or “a moderate amount” of responsibility for the Dec. 4 shooting of Brian Thompson.

Despite that, some have cast Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old suspect charged with Thompson’s murder, as a heroic figure in the aftermath of his arrest, which gave rise to an outpouring of grievances about insurance companies. Police say the words “delay,” “deny” and “depose” were scrawled on the ammunition investigators found at the scene, echoing a phrase commonly used to describe insurer tactics to avoid paying claims.

UnitedHealthcare has said Mangione was not a client.

About 7 in 10 adults say that denials for health care coverage by insurance companies, or the profits made by health insurance companies, also bear at least “a moderate amount” of responsibility for Thompson’s death. Younger Americans are particularly likely to see the murder as the result of a confluence of forces rather than just one person’s action.

  • @[email protected]
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    16 hours ago

    We are just trying to have our cake and eat it too. Btw, when will the group maker spaces scheduled to make the guillotines?

  • @MehBlah
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    A industry cannot keep shitting on its forced customers this long and expect us to not take at the very least satisfaction in one of their own being deleted.

  • @[email protected]
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    121 day ago

    blame insurance profits and denials alongside the killer

    What exactly were we blaming Luigi for?

      • @[email protected]
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        415 hours ago

        Oh. That.

        Slipped my mind as the last day or two I’ve been kinda distracted fighting UHC/Optum Rx over the latest runaround they’re giving me on my medication refill that I need in order to avoid major depressive episodes and suicidal ideation. I say latest because this is just our regular ritual every three months.

        This latest round I’ve decided to admit defeat and just start paying out of pocket so I can get them from a local pharmacist of my choosing, without the runarounds, and without running out of my medications and fucking with my brain chemistry every three months. Hopefully they aren’t too expensive.

        But, yeah, UHC CEO, thanks for the reminder. Thoughts and prayers and all that jazz.

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    The person who committed the killing has “a great deal” or “a moderate amount” of responsibility for the Dec. 4 shooting of Brian Thompson

    Is this meant to be a control or something? Isn’t literally the person committing the killing responsible for the shooting… I don’t get how that’s not saying the same exact thing

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      I would disagree and blame UHC for the killing, the same way UHc would disagree that a procedure is medically necessary

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        115 hours ago

        I kind of get what you’re saying, but it’s just the wording is weird to me I guess. It feels like colloquially you would say “This person is responsible for the killing” to be equivalent to “This person committed the killing”, so I would wonder why anyone wouldn’t answer ‘yes’ the person is responsible.

        I think that this confusing wording introduces bias.

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      71 day ago

      Is it? Has it stopped UHC and other health insurance providers from denying necessary medical care?

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        It has raised considerable awareness among the working class about the shared struggles we face. I have personally seen considerable rhetoric shift towards discussions on class consciousness, which in my eyes is incredibly worth it.

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        My kid broke his ankle falling near but not from a tree, and the Dr wanted to give him pain meds. Our insurance decided he can tough it out instead. They still accepted my monthly payment, rather than just toughing it out.

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        I mean, it’s a start…

        It already convinced BCBS to roll back dropping coverage of anesthesia for surgeries

  • @foggy
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    Let’s indict insurance profits then.

    Hell, let’s call them terroristic.

  • @Hlodwig
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    Nah, its not even that, the picture shows that its not him, his innocence is blatant and proven. Nothing can make him guilty. Thats it…

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      Who wrote the manifesto found in his backpack?

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          How could they plant something on him with his own handwriting?

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              I don’t. But his defense lawyers do.

              And if it isn’t his handwriting, then the prosecutors will lose the case so badly that they will make the OJ prosecutors look like Sherlock Holmes.

              Prosecutors don’t like humiliating losses, so I strongly doubt they are dumb enough to plant a forged manifesto.

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                  Eyebrows aren’t visible in the shooting video.

      • @Hlodwig
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        Pics of the killer were everywhere before they caught Luigi. He had plenty of time to write the manifesto, find close (but not same) clothes, find gun and find close (but not same) backpack…

        I dont know why he tried to make himself look like the killer. But what is undeniable is that he is not the killer, and there is a clear and reliable proof: pic of the killer is not him, not the same upper face, not the same height and not the same body frame. Saying otherwise is at the same level of stupidity as flat eather…

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    Clearly was not him but the slave master need to make an example of someone