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Good. Play hardball with the stupid orange fuck. If he wants to play transactional games, then it’s only fair that other countries negotiate with him in the same manner.
It’s really necessary for everyone on the right. We’ve gotten away with so much for so long around the world that they literally act like we’re the main characters and everyone else will just go along with whatever demented shit they decide to do. Without swift and tangible retaliation that sentiment would just get even more pronounced.
Honduras, like many poor Central American countries, relies heavily on income from citizens living abroad. About 20% of its income comes from Hondurans living in the US.
How much do they get paid for the military base?
They don’t
Bald eagle noises while flying away
Bald eagleRed Tailed Hawk noises while flying awaySorry I am from across the pond, apologies for getting the bird wrong
Bald eagle is the right bird, but the noise that’s played on TV is not.
TIL
I hope they get paid for power and water. Those are neat commodities to provide to a military base; be a shame if someone were to switch them off.
Not sure it would offset this
The move would present grave risks for the small country, which depends on the United States as its largest trading partner and a source of humanitarian aid.
China will gladly step in to that role.
One thing unmentioned, and I don’t think this totally makes up for it but it’s worth considering, is people stationed on the base will spend a lot of their pay in the local area. The areas around military bases can make a lot of money from military personnel, even if they aren’t being paid directly.
Oh sweet summer child
How much is it worth to you to not be forced into personally housing military soldiers in your home ?
I fail to see how this would do anything but give the mouth foaming populist , and now imperialist apparentley MAGA crowd , an excuse to bomb the country.
They want an excuse to kill you.
Huh, well, they might want to brace for a very sudden coup in that country if history is any indication…
Xi Jinping is already buying sunscreen for his army…
It’s pretty crazy to me that this outrage is over sending back illegal immigrants. You’d think every country would have all the right to send those back. But I guess the situation in the US has been allowed, for the sake of economic interests, to get so bad that even that is now an outrage.
Crazy world.
The outrage is over sending back illegal and legal migrants, they’re talking about reverting citizenship status for some, straight up tossing out legal like the Haitian migrants in Springfield… Also do you have any fucking idea how insane it is to expect a country to suddenly take back thousands of people that are no longer citizens there? The kids and shit they’ve had since they left?
Oh and not to mention that Trump and friends promised that this thing is going to be bloody… they’re eating the cats and dogs after all right?
But yeah why the outrage? Who cares about kids and families and human decency. They’re illegal!!! Throw em out with the garbage, right? Who cares about all the cheap ass jobs these people do? Who cares about the direct negative impact it has on farmers, construction companies and the like, just as we saw happen in Florida when they tried to institute the checking of papers each day at job sites to ensure proof of citizenship….
Who cares at all of the immediate negative impacts to the economy that won’t just magically go away when nobody quits their current jobs to fill in for the now missing migrants?
That’s what you want us to say right?
Most governments in Latin America, including Mexico’s, have worked to stay on a good footing with Mr. Trump, even as they have sought to emphasize the contributions their citizens make to the American economy, whatever their legal status.
Countries are upset over illegals immigrants being deported too
It’s kinda wild that countries are expecting others to host their illegal immigrants. I guess the US’s issue is the inaction for the longest time, now when it’s coming suddenly it upsets a lot of countries.
Who cares about all the cheap ass jobs these people do?
Who cares at all of the immediate negative impacts to the economy
Corporations are exploiting even legal immigration to undercut unions and keep wages down, illegal immigration is much worse.
But line must go up, I guess.
Leaving aside that borders are fake and shouldn’t exist without actual hostile intent… Sure bro, you’re all about unions and worker empowerment. That’s why you side with the Fox News crowd every time you can.
And, just so we’re abundantly clear that you’re talking about something you don’t understand:
Trump has been threatening to expel natural born citizens and the American fascists you always pipe up in support of historically don’t even check citizenship in the first place when they decide to start rounding up brown people.
Yeah I’m not even American though. We don’t have Fox News lol. But we have plenty strong unions who are voicing the same concern.
If conservatives gave a shit about worker’s wages they wouldn’t be conservatives and they wouldn’t fight against it every other step of the way.
If they want union support on the issue they can stop trying to kill unions first.
You are confused. I wasn’t talking about conservatives.
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
I find it incredibly un-american to reject those searching for safety and to make a better life. Welcome them, shelter them, and grant them citizenship. That is what this country was founded for; to escape persecution, and to ensure every man their freedom in the pursuit of happiness.
A year before that poem was written the Chinese Exclusion Act went into effect. Nothing new under the sun.
You seem to be missing the point.
I’m just pointing out the contradiction between the sentiment and the reality.
Another grim contradiction would be the “ensure every man their freedom” part from your comment. The US had to have a civil war to make chattel slavery illegal.
While there may be many injustices in our history and the modern age, that does not mean we have to accept them or stand idle while they happen.
The sentiment stands, and is a reality many will choose to die for.
Just as you said, a war was fought to defend the freedoms of every man.
Many will vote and enact the complete opposite, which is why I think thinking of them as shared American ideals doesn’t convince me
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.
Why are they immigrating? A lot of the reasons are the US’s fault
Hoping for a better life, I’d imagine.
That is a crazy position to take. They will do whatever it takes to not accept their own citizens back.
Wouldn’t have to if the US wasn’t a leech on their economy
Google banana republic
I wonder how big of a part this stuff mentioned in the article is
The move would present grave risks for the small country, which depends on the United States as its largest trading partner and a source of humanitarian aid.
If it’s anywhere near it or larger they’ll be in a real pickle since Trump is absolutely going to use trade and aid for coercion
Can americans accept all of their dumb ass soldiers back first?
US takes back its soldiers and Honduras takes back its citizens. I guess it would be a fair exchange but one side is going to be way more fucked by that than the other.
Oh they will accept them back just don’t expect them to continue serving colonizer force. There are other countries like China who would be more beneficial to them once US bases are out.
Does China accept a lot of immigrants? From the numbers, it either doesn’t seem to accept a lot or don’t have many takers.
I was talking about bases.
Ah alright
