Summary

Elon Musk, co-head of the Department of Government Efficiency under Donald Trump’s advisory team, revised his claim of finding $2 trillion in federal budget cuts to a “best-case outcome” of $1 trillion.

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

While Musk and co-lead Vivek Ramaswamy plan to recommend cuts, specifics remain unclear.

Experts warn savings may require targeting mandatory programs like Medicaid, potentially causing hardships.

  • @makyo
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    18216 days ago

    Anyone who actually believed they would find $2 trillion was an idiot, the rest of us knew they’d just cut the things they hate, bump the subsidies that favor them and their friends, and call it a day.

    • @Cypher
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      5016 days ago

      Your comment will age poorly when Trump’s tarrifs lead to a collapsing economy and he prints money like mad to solve it, resulting in hyper-inflation letting President Musk keep his election promise.

    • @[email protected]
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      3516 days ago

      The funny thing is…it’s not like their voters would care if they lied. They could literally say “We cut the budget by $17 trillion by making sure the trans kids don’t get surgeries!” And their voters would fucking cheer.

      They wouldn’t look deep enough to actually care what they cut.

      So the question is why even make this announcement? I’m guessing it’s a distraction from something else.

    • @bitchkat
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      316 days ago

      I expect them to privatize and then somehow claim they cut the budget because they are paying a private company instead of running whole departments themselves (govt)

    • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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      316 days ago

      Surely it’s essy to find $2tr in the Homeland Security/ military budget?

      • @wjrii
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        616 days ago

        Not even there. DoD is ~$840B and DHS another sixty. Not even one trillion in the entire US security apparatus, but they were going to so easily find twice that. It was always pure nonsense.

  • Flying Squid
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    This doesn’t look good for Elon. Lucky for him that he’s the president.

    • @Cheems
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      Doesn’t matter his fan base will eat it up

        • @disguy_ovahea
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          1416 days ago

          Yup. It keeps him from falling over from all of the blowing.

          • @[email protected]
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            316 days ago

            Yes I’m just learning about this guy. Doesn’t seem like the type of bloke who would have fans.

            • Zagorath
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              1016 days ago

              I wish I could have lived in your world these past 10 years. I mean that (mostly) sincerely.

              • @bitchkat
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                216 days ago

                I kind of wish he could have lived out his life in that world.

        • @bitchkat
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          316 days ago

          Yes he does. Right now they are all virtually MAGA as well. They believe Leon can do no wrong and believe that all the MAGAs are going to buy Tesla now.

          • @[email protected]
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            115 days ago

            Correct me if I’m wrong. I was under the impression that a substantial part of MAGAs are climate change deniers and gasoline bros who drive huge trucks and SUVs. Now they all want teslas? I’m confused.

            • @bitchkat
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              115 days ago

              a. they don’t all want the Teslas, the ones that have had them, think all the other MAGAS want them. b. These are fanbois that were always first to say “I didn’t buy my Tesla for the environmental stuff, …”

    • Diplomjodler
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      3016 days ago

      While having no fucking clue what he was talking about. More news at ten.

  • @pastaPersona
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    Man, it’s almost like he has no idea what he’s talking about or something. Definitely a good candidate to be making policy decisions affecting millions of people.

    • @Tyfud
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      516 days ago

      Billions.

  • @kautau
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    4516 days ago

    Sounds like they’re not an efficient use of government resources and should be cut

  • @halcyoncmdr
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    4216 days ago

    Oh? The places he’s looking at actually work fairly efficiently already? Or the inefficiencies are outside their control? The inefficient sections are the places he can’t go, like the DOD?

    • @[email protected]
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      4316 days ago

      Any inefficiency likely comes from private industry bending the government over and stealing our wallet. I’ve been paid obscenely better as a contractor than my government counterparts, and I’m probably only seeing half of what my company charges. Entire departments are twenty contractors at a cost of $5 million per year and two actual government employees making a grand total of $60k each. Maybe double that at most by the time you include all the benefits.

      But if you try to trim that, you’re cutting into the profits of private industry, and we sure as fuck can’t have that, can we?

      • @SlopppyEngineer
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        316 days ago

        And a bunch of bureaucracy in government with budgets, approvals and checks etc were put in place as cost cutting in the first place.

    • Flying Squid
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      Or they’ve already had their budgets slashed so much that there’s nothing left to slash. Which is pretty common unfortunately.

    • Diplomjodler
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      But those things actually help poor people. Can’t have that, can we?

  • @Treczoks
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    2816 days ago

    Wherever he cut, you can safely assume it will only hit the people at the bottom, not those at the top.

    • @[email protected]
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      315 days ago

      It will hit whatever annoys him, his companies and that extends to everybody who kisses his ring sufficiently.

      But yes, social and worker protections probably match that criteria.

  • @affiliate
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    i’m actually kind of shocked he admitted this. isn’t his usual strategy to promise super unrealistic things, not deliver, and then make the same promise the next year?

    • @utopiah
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      Indeed, but I bet he isn’t used to hide things in the public. This is a federal budget, not yet another of his corporations. I bet he knows the very best accountants but that’s just different.

  • Rentlar
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    If allowed, Elon will find trillions to funnel to himself and Trump’s cronies however.

    • d00phy
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      1016 days ago

      Oh make no mistake, his goal is to be the world’s first trillionaire within the next 4-years. Why else would he so publicly be going full fascist unless he was ready to fully embrace the concept of “fuck everyone and everything ever to be” money.

  • @[email protected]
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    Oh please, you’re not even going to get $100 billion without stepping on some toes in the Military-Industrial complex, and that’s going to make you some lifelong political enemies.

    • @[email protected]
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      716 days ago

      Oh that’s not what he meant at all.

      He meant slashing social security and Medicare. Obviously rich people aren’t going to feel the pinch.

  • @[email protected]
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    If he cuts anything it’ll be support for middle class and poor people and itll be jack shit, it will fuck everything up and it will be touted by clowns as a success.

  • @[email protected]
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    2315 days ago

    Can we take a moment to acknowledge a few billionaires made their own government department, and people are just rolling with it?

    They’re a random private company. Why are we just letting that fact slide???

    • tb_
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      Because the media is owned by that same billionaire class

      • @[email protected]
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        112 days ago

        No but like… Even on lemmy, even left wing streamers, even my friends just kinda laugh and go “yeah, things are fucking crazy”

        It’s like everyone just accepted it… Not the they like it, but that they’ve just accepted a billionaire has made a fake government department that is going to dictate terms to the rest of the government, and no one seems to really take a second to acknowledge that idea

  • @[email protected]
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    $2 Trillion was more than the discretionary budget of the US. It literally couldn’t be done.

    Which is why it was a stupid promise and literally anyone with any expertise could tell you that. Which shows you how unserious Musk is about this.

    Now that he cut the promise in half and it’s still politically impossible but not literally impossible, I reiterate my request…say how you plan to do it. Give us a rough idea what programs are being cut, even the easiest 20%.

    By having the conversation about the number alone, we’re buying his political premise. The money is not there for no reason, these are democratically popular government programs, that’s why they exist. So which popular programs are you getting rid of to save this money?

    • @[email protected]
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      915 days ago

      As an Ontarian I feel we are actually more than a few years from America in terms of this bullshit.

      You can go back to when Rob Ford won the mayorship of Toronto talking about “stopping the gravy train”. He found no gravy.

      Fast forward to Doug Ford becoming premier to “stop the gravy train” of which he found no gravy. In fact he unlawfully terminated numerous contracts costing Ontarians even more money.

      Short story, people who try to reduce complex economic issues into simple solutions are snake oil salesmen not to be trusted.

      Unfortunately in today’s media landscape it works.

    • Phoenixz
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      215 days ago

      No, this is bit Elon Musk being unserious, this is musk just lying his ass off as he does all day, every day, since forever.

      When you start looking into his history you’ll find a pattern of continuous lies and deceits. Everything great he is known for either actually never happened (self driving cars, anyone? Any day now he’ll have them, forover a decade already) or is something that someone else did and he just took the credit.

      He won’t “find” 2 trillion dollars. He won’t find a single trillion dollar either, he won’t find much, in the end.

      This is just typical Elon Musk behavior as he knows that the musk fans will remember those 2 trillion dollars, they’ll forgetbot completely ignore reality

    • @[email protected]
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      115 days ago

      How much of the budget could be reduced if we fired all military personnel and sold at auction most of out military assets?

  • Maple Engineer
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    1916 days ago

    Ya, so, we’re not going to do any of the things we promised. We’re just going to try to punish our political enemies and fuck shit up while looting every last penny that we can and running away while the country burns.