Summary
Special Counsel Jack Smith’s report concluded that Donald Trump avoided prosecution for January 6-related charges due to his reelection.
The DOJ determined that prosecuting a sitting president violated constitutional protections, despite evidence strong enough to secure a conviction.
Smith noted that Trump’s return to office directly halted legal action and criticized existing DOJ policies and judicial interpretations, which shielded presidents from accountability.
The report underscores how voters, by reinstating Trump, indirectly prevented his criminal prosecution for actions threatening democratic institutions.
God stfu. Him getting elected means nothing. He was getting away with everything either way
The fact that they didn’t secure a conviction for four years tells you all you need to know. Complete sham. Guilty as sin, but they wouldn’t put him in jail.
To be fair, that was not jack smith’s fault. He did his job exactly as well as he was allowed. Blame the system, but in this instance, do not blame the man.
Bullshit. The Dems wanted to run against Trump while he was being prosecuted and slow rolled the investigations because they thought they’d win.
And thats not smiths fault. He did his job. The failure is above that. Pay attention to the bigger picture.
Why not? He folded up everything as soon as the election was over. What the hell kind of integrity is that?
He had a job. He did the job. His run down of how things go does not exist in a vacvuum. Where do his responsibilities start and where do they stop?
He did his job right. The follow-up is on someone else. And they failed. On epic levels. But dont blame him. He already paid the piper. The man gets credit for what he did. His report being ignored is no fault of his own.
I think there is some deeply cynical logic, or a horrifying game of chicken, being played by Democratic leaders here.
Let’s say Jack Smith is given the go-ahead to investigate and prosecute Trump as fast as he possibly could (while building a bullet-proof case for conviction). With all the legal resources (not to mention Republican-friendly judges) available for Trump to leverage, it’s safe to say that Smith certainly would not have been able to complete a full trial and secure a conviction before the 2024 election. But perhaps one could have been under-way.
A Trump trial for election interference in the middle of 2024 would have been a galvanizing force for his base, and likely cause his popularity among like-minded folks to surge and likely help his polling numbers. After all, conservatives love their persecution complexes and already live in a hazy fantasy world where their guy can do no wrong. So this doesn’t help Democrats.
If Trump were to be acquitted, this would obviously be credibility kryptonite for Democrats, so that’s a bad outcome. And if Trump were to be convicted, I believe there is genuine concern among top Democrats that all the armed crazies (including those in the police, government positions and military) might do a real insurrection this time as opposed to the world’s shittiest flash mob.
So what’s a cynical Democratic operator to do? Have Smith slow-walk the investigation and take his time to make it immaculate. Have the election without using litigation to get in Trump’s way and hope that people don’t make a shitty choice. If they do, they’ll get what they paid for: another four years of ridiculous chaos. These would represent setbacks and lost ground for Democratic causes, but their patrons will figure out how to make it profitable in the meantime and be there to fund a comeback when the American people become exhausted by the bullshit. Let him burn himself out in the spotlight, further expose himself as a corrupt fool, letting his support curdle naturally rather than fighting him and his supporters at their strongest.
This scenario presumes several deeply horrifying and risky ideas:
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No one who matters will get hurt in the next four years. Are you rich? Are you a middle-class cis-het-white person? Do you not live in Palestine, Ukraine or Taiwan? You’ll ride this out. The poor and the queers have nowhere else to turn, so they’ll eat shit and be right back on the Democrat’s side next time around (unless they have money, of course).
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Trump and his cronies will be too inept to dismantle American democracy before the next election.
I’m no card player, but this all seems like a terrible gamble to me.
The first half here doesn’t really track because Trump’s numbers didn’t really change. He had a similar amount of voters as usual, and the Democrats came up short. I don’t think there could have been a substantial boost for him, his people are solid regardless of whatever he says or goes through.
The second half, yeah that makes sense, but now we see happens when Democrats “play by the rules” or try to play it safe… They lose. It’s less about trump and more that they didn’t capture voters. We needed Kamala to distance herself from Biden but she wanted to be “nice”. People are struggling, no one feels the economy is great, they left progressives behind, and here we are now. Even if progressives are only 10-20% of the party, you NEED them to win
Y’all think there’s a lot more order to the world than there really is. Really it’s just a simple combination of people not wanting to step in front of the moving train, and those that do didn’t have the power to stop it. People like Merrick Garland and Robert Mueller are likely the most responsible without being complicit. They refused to be leaders. They were trying as hard as they could to downplay current events and keep some odd kind of status quo.
I understand that they wanted the government of the United States to seem stable and democratic. They wanted stay out of everything as hard as they could, and they failed to do their jobs in the process.
Most everyone else did what they felt they could do without destabilizing the government and while respecting the vote of the people. It’s unclear if things go better or worse for the country if Biden takes drastic action. It’s really hard to say “just this one time” to removing the president-elect from his office. Though I think a Vance presidency would have been better for all involved.
It’s not some grand conspiracy. It’s mostly a failure of the American public.
I’ve had similar thoughts myself.
Basically, you can’t use a legal process to dispose of someone that the voting public want to be president.
Only because we apparently hold politicians to no real standards. Incoming rapists alert, but hey who really cares because there is no law against it and convictions are hard to come by. I mean at this point Aotus probably won’t consider you unless you are a confirmed rapist. Birds of a feather.
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I’m glad to hear this guy skates because a whole lot of low-info voters made protest votes, sat out, or even voted for donvict because “both sides” or other stupid narratives.
This is insane, it shouldn’t matter, he did the crimes. I hate this country
We don’t elect presidents anymore. We elect short(-ish) term kings
short(-ish) term
That’s optimistic.
Fat fuck will be dead inside of 4 years.
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
If it makes you feel any better, they would’ve found some other reason if he lost the election.
I actually believe that this is how it should be. If it was a tyrannical government (but it’s not) citizens could vote in a president that was falsely accused or imprisoned (he is 100% guilty of that and much more).
I do want to clarify that I also believe Trump and the GOP will either destroy or renew (through third party actions) the USA as we know it and if they didn’t constantly break the law this could be a good precedent.
But the people voted and he got both popular and electoral votes. The people want the grifter. If it turns out low elo meddled with the results, well, see that third party actions comment.
I understand the desire of people who don’t want to see accusations like this be used as a political weapon, but the pendulum is swinging too far in the opposite direction here. Trump is using his status as a political candidate and now president-elect to sidestep the judicial process entirely.
It’s one thing to say you can be president even from a prison cell if the electorate so wills it. It’s another to say that because he was voted to be president, we can’t even put him up for a trial to determine guilt or innocence by a jury of his peers.
And now we’ll probably never know the answer to that.
It’s a completely fucked up situation to be sure. He was already found guilty of 34/34 felonies he was charged with. MAGA reaction? Put a bumper sticker on their car that says “I’m voting for the felon” right next to their thin blue line sticker. These insurrection charges should have been brought up years ago, but I’m not sure it would have changed anyone’s opinion. Like you said, we’ll never know.
Don’t forget the MAGA faction of SCOTUS who also chose to delay as much as possible
It’s the voters’ collective fault.
I hate this timeline.
And by “voters” he means democratic city polling place bomb threats, Elon Musk & Starlink, and a 2 year Merrick Garland delay.
…and yet there won’t be thousands of people protesting his inauguration or anything the fuck else.
The people in this country have been broken, and now they’re just gonna lay over and take it.
We’re a long way from February 15th, 2003.
Face it, American citizens, we’re fucking cooked.
Why’d you bypass the largest protest in the country’s history? Black Lives Matter was just four years ago and included people actually fighting with cops, not just walking along prescribed routes holding signs. We’re a lot closer to a break than we ever were in 2003.
People weren’t fighting cops, it was just cops doing what they do best.
I held the line.
Hell yeah. Gotta organize and show up
I can tell you this, I’m a fuck load more experienced and prepared than when we had to pull a plan out of our asses 4 years ago.
There were some. Shooting fireworks and de-arresting their comrades. But yeah, most of the violence was in one direction.
Face it, American citizens, we’re fucking cooked.
Some of us are and some of us aren’t. Help your neighbors if you’re one of the lucky ones who aren’t.
I’ll do my best but considering I have cancer and can’t afford my meds without the ACA, I’m probably one of the ones who is pretty fucking cooked.
I’m safe, I’ll pick up your slack fam.
I knew billywitchdoctor.com would come through for me.
aka mob rules above actual justice.
He’s from Mary Geoise. He will not spend a day in prison regardless of whether he became president or not during this current term.
Pretty sure that was you, Jack, by dragging your feet for as long as possible with that investigation.
Listen, we can give a ton of people shit on this. Jack Smith isn’t one of them. The people Jack Smith works for are the ones who failed here.
