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Seems like there’s suddenly a lot of shills for other platforms here.
We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.
But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis’ of alignments:
- Impossible to place on left vs right.
- Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
- Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
- cannot align with a specific country’s interests
How about this: “Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us”
Impossible to place on left vs right
Not possible unfortunately 😅
What you’ve come up with there would be considered “left wing” 😂
Sorry, but I cannot abide the Dutch
Dude. The Russian propaganda flows freely around here.
I mean, freedom means all propaganda is welcome, so that should cancel out, right? Right?
Dont worry, if you put propoganda of opposite polarity together they cancel eachother out. /s
You don’t have to interact with .ml instances, you know?
If you think it’s contained within one instance then you are the exact type of mark they are after.
The masses will always be attracted to the opiates offered them by those seeking to control them for greedy purposes.
does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that’s what people really care about these days
(also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption…)
I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it’s actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn’t a big deal since the issues are only occasional.
I don’t understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can’t get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that’s the point…
Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It’s easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can’t find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.
I guess I just don’t get the hit of pleasure from it. I feel like I’m just getting into whatever it is and then it blue-balls me.
I mean, that’s just two different purposes of two different formats.
Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It’s made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.
Long and short form content don’t compete but compliment with each other. If you don’t like one or the other, that’s totally fine, then you’re just not part of the target audience.
I haven’t checked it out yet but “loops” is supposed to be that
We got https://loops.video/ right?
From my time on Lemmy. There seems to be a lot of American propaganda on here from people.
Sometimes I don’t know if it’s propaganda or some inferiority complex because I’ve seen some propaganda from my country (MX) and if I try to go against it I get downvoted constantly (a lot less since I joined an instance that blocked ml, grad and hex) by people adamant into telling me how they lived here for a while, they have family here or how I am ignorant about that country, like… Bitch, everyone in my family has lived here for 3 generations at least, don’t come here to tell me how things work when I have to deal with the consequences of a kakistocracy that keeps shitting on everything.
A lot of the fediverse users just have to be right when it comes to politics… And vaping, don’t you dare have questions or doubts about vaping because they get mad.I see a lot of Chinese propaganda as well
And Russian and North Korea for some reason
The amount of people here who will try to convince you that NK is some sort of paradise here is insane.
yeah but there’s tankies too, so it cancels out
Do you think actual sponsored accounts/bots or just indoctrinated people?
i really doubt any major organizations are paying for bots, at least not on lemmy. we’re just not big enough methinks
if there are any it’s probably a smaller operation done by a few people max.Both, but there was definitely blatant astroturfing after Biden withdrew and Kamala became the nominee.
I think we just have a surprising amount of political staffers in Lemmy. The bulk does seem to be wealthy people living in suburbs. Look at how the biggest groups are people self hosting thousands and thousands of dollars of equipment.
Surprising amount of political staffers… As if that is a class of people. Those people are normies and not tech savvy. They’re all workaholics too so most of them probably only used LinkedIn for social media.
Your idea that people who self-host somehow equals political staffers is just asinine. There’s literally no overlap.
100% just indoctrinated people, lemmy is too small to catch anyone’s attention.
You tend to have very extreme views, which sometimes get heavily downvoted. It’s convenient for you to blame that on “American indoctrination.”
And as you say, Lemmy is too small. So maybe it’s just that a lot of people here do not agree with your views.
Even for people, who are not Leninist/Stalinist or similar, it is noticeable.
From my perspective (being not from the US) us-american arrogance is very present on lemmy.
Those aren’t mutually exclusive; “American indoctrination.” is the reason so many lemmitors disagree with such extreme views as “sending weapons that prolong war is bad for the people who will suffer the effects of those weapons, mostly civilians”, “supporting al-nusra is bad”, “we shouldn’t put tariffs on EVs and solar panels”, or “the chinese government having your data is less of a threat to you than the american government having your data”
We already have American censorship on the top ones, which will get worse once Project 2025 is enacted…
Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance’s admin and the only recourse you’ll have is to join another one instead…
That’s pretty big recourse though.
“The only recourse you’ll have” is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.
And you’re just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances’ admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.
Just out of curiosity, what’s your solution?
(Putting aside that what you describe is still far more room for ban evasion than non-fediverse platforms.)
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16065977
Basically, decentralize the back-end independently of the front-end, eliminate admins altogether, mods still exist but they only have power on their communities, they don’t have site wide power.
That wouldn’t work that well, especially when you take law into regard. For example, the european Digital Services Act regulates platforms and platforms have to respond to obligations, sometimes deleting content. Communities are not platforms, instances are. Ergo, you need instance admins be able to comply and respond to the DSA.
The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.
How’s that different from now?
Or do you want users to not be banned instancewide for breaking instance rules? Or do you want to abolish instance/server rules aside from local laws altogether?
Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.
That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me
That’s so sad. Anyway
raises hand from a popular and politically agnostic instance
Depends heavily even then, but Lemmy is pretty okay as a community and I think it’s been the most successful fediverse experience so far
Cool!
Not just right leaning people, but also centrists and people who aren’t far enough left
My god, where will the centrists turn to without lemmy :'(
Exhibit A
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Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.
But it’s not usually the people running the platform doing that. You can also find instances that go full on 4chan style freeze peach and only delete explicitly illegal stuff, but most of those are probably defederated from the big instances by now.
Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it’s only an attempt to remind you you’re an asshole. It’s up to you whether you believe them or not.
How does that work here anyway? Is there a FAQ or something to explain? Do downvoted comments get hidden or pushed down?
Not as far as I can tell. It’s really just an indicator “some people thought your comment was dogshit”. Whether you take it seriously is up to you.
Meh, you’re just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.
And you are starting to believe you’re normal and you’re keeping your space clean of all the “assholes”. But instead you’re just way too far up your own ass most of the time.
Your downvotes don’t hurt. It’s just sad that this ambitious project that could’ve easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that’s reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name “fediverse”.
You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are “trump bad”, “capitalism bad.” Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There’s no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together “fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism”. On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.
And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.
Almost every other Reddit alternative has been taken over by nazis. You’ve got plenty of space dude. Just fuck off. I’m sure there’s even a fascist lemmy instance you can find instead of here whining because you can’t spread hate. Shit, just go join X.
exploding heads once existed, but they have such low users that just shut down lmfao
Imagine wanting to exist without automatic persecution and being told you are “extremely left”
Lmfao eat shit bitch ♥️
Centrists are nazis these days 😅
Fediverse more censored than Reddit ever was.
Sigh. And this is exactly why I said people need to learn how these protocols work.
there’s the door
♪ You give .world a bad name ♪
Get off .world before claiming that lol
.world is not the problem, this particular user is.
They literally said “I hate the disabled”. I know that because I tagged them when I saw that. No it wasn’t out of context.
Other instances they may have just been full on banned for their behavior.
Can I get a link to that? Assuming it was recent enough to not be too much of a bother…
(I’m disabled myself and I’d love the opportunity to tear them apart)
I dont remember how long ago (maybe a few weeks?) And the tag is just a manual tag, so no link to that one. You’d have to check their post history, sorry.
For reference, this is my tag:
Just go to a different instance my dude.
Is it though?
Check their modlogs lmao
TLDR: Transphobia
Not only transphobia. Also ableism and generally being an asshole. Breaking any given ”be civil“ rule in any given community.
https://old.lemmy.world/comment/14402980
Would someone transphobic write this?
You weirdo perpetually online Lemmy users always jump to the transphobic conclusion. I’ve been labeled that even though I’m not so many times it’s not even funny any longer. But you pull some reddit-tier shit and judge someone based on some cherry-picked history; and then have the balls to tell me to go back to Reddit while exhibiting that same behavior. Hilarious!
Which logs? There are multiple communities on .world
Just any modlog site, then filter for the user (and ”removing comments“ if you like). For example: https://feddit.org/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveComment&userId=2113
To me, it looks like they go to communities, rage against the community’s topic, break any civility rule and cry ”censor“ when the inevitable deletions and bans fly in.
But my FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH!!!
Reddit-tier behavior right here. Because you’re just looking at the mod log and attributing every thing ever modded to my entire history of posts. I participate in lots of communities, and a majority of my stuff isn’t ever modded or deleted.
And it’s actually worse over here, because instance admins have access to the history of your up/downvotes, so they can dive even DEEPER and have been caught doing that exact thing.
But way to miss the point - and then go even deeper in proving the point I was making; and being a great example of that point.
But way to miss the point
Lmao. Talking some irony here. The point was not to analyze all your comments and behavior. The modlog shows you’re not being censored, you’re just experiencing consequences of breaking community and server rules.
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Avoid .world .ml and grad and you should be good
