Very sad about this.

  • @aeiou_ckr
    link
    510 hours ago

    I’m a bit out of the loop, what does the ! Do/represent in front of a community?

  • @Iheartcheese
    link
    1214 hours ago

    What happened? .world is one of the ‘bad guy’ instances now?

    • mesamune
      link
      English
      29
      edit-2
      14 hours ago

      Some communities are choosing to go to world kinda recently.

      Personally kinda a nothing burger to me but its strange to move when the community which is solidified on one instance. Its fine to have multiple communities in multiple places…

      World is the most vanilla of the servers in my experience.

      • Lemminary
        link
        27 hours ago

        Yeah, I don’t get it. I’m on world by happenstance but I like it when communities are federated.

      • @Iheartcheese
        link
        613 hours ago

        Wait so all this drama is because. world has become too popular?

        • enkers
          link
          fedilink
          5
          edit-2
          7 hours ago

          While other people have answered your direct question, I think it’s important to think about it from a slightly more abstract POV as well.

          A lot of people left reddit because they were unhappy with being forced off of 3rd party apps. Lemmy provides a fundamentally different (from reddit) mechanism to protect against that sort of centralised overreach: federation. It’s also one of the unique qualities which differentiates us from reddit.

          If any instance becomes the de facto standard, as lemmy.world is dangerously close to being, it compromises the strength of having federated communities.

          It’s in all users best interest to avoid centralisation tendencies, and most people would be better suited spending a little time to consider which instance they are best aligned with, and moving to that instance instead of just staying with the most popular instance.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          11
          edit-2
          12 hours ago

          World has had some controversy and a lot of .world users have a very “Reddit” worldview - which kind of makes sense since many of them are Reddit refugees.

          As a result there are some instances that have defederated with .world, and some call into question the moderation model used.

          196 didn’t even ask their users though; they were just like “ok we’re gonna move the community and no one is allowed the old one” which is an arbitrary decision that goes against the design of the fediverse. So while .world isn’t ideal for many, the real point of contention is the fact that this was just done out of nowhere, with no input, and measures are being taken to prevent competition from a new team taking over at Blahaj.

          If you don’t like how a community is treated on an instance and the admins won’t work with you, you’re free to go create your own community elsewhere, with blackjack and hookers. But, I don’t think it’s fair that you can just pull the ladder up behind you and slam the door. Shame on the 196 mods and on the blahaj admins both for allowing this situation, the worst possible outcome.

    • @[email protected]OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      413 hours ago

      more like “bad overcrowded space”

      none of the admins are malicious outright but they are ill equipped to administer to such a volume of userspace

      • Lemminary
        link
        46 hours ago

        Oh, we’re so, so bad. 😈

  • macniel
    link
    fedilink
    18
    edit-2
    17 hours ago

    the last panel really nails it. They may be decent but damn was that a bad decision.

  • @MataVatnik
    link
    916 hours ago

    Comments are saying there are a lot of instances that could be used instead of LW, what would be some examples? I want to start a community eventually and if LW and Blahaj are not good places I would like to know what good alternatives would be

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      5
      edit-2
      7 hours ago

      i like shitjustworks because the admins like to not interfere much with what the users do unless absolutely necessary and it has generally good vibes. TheDude who hosts the instance runs it on insanely overspecced hardware as well, so the interface is very responsive, the performance is excellent and the uptime is enterprise level.

      if i were to name a linux distro with a similar vibe it would be debian, whereas LW is ubuntu and blahaj is the btw distribution

      • @MataVatnik
        link
        26 hours ago

        Thank you, appreciate the linux analogy too lmao

    • @[email protected]OP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1516 hours ago

      i hear your concern, let me know if you can think of an alternative template i will put some thought in as well

        • mesamune
          link
          English
          3
          edit-2
          14 hours ago

          It would be better to have mods elected by the community after a certain amount of time. Like leave it up to the users or the main site admin. Might also lead to less mod burn out too.

      • Chloé 🥕
        link
        fedilink
        10
        edit-2
        16 hours ago

        iirc there are many templates that follow the “something good, something better, something bad” format

        the one i can think of right now is this one: meme template in 3 panels: in the first we see a finger pressing a button labeled "upgrade", in the second we see that same finger pressing the same "upgrade" button, and in the third, tinted red and with a lot of motion blur, the finger is now pressing a "FUCK GO BACK" button

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          715 hours ago

          That particular one doesn’t have the same energy to it, especially one where the conversation is so heated.

          • Chloé 🥕
            link
            fedilink
            313 hours ago

            yea, i see your point, but it’s the only one that came to mind on the spot

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      8
      edit-2
      15 hours ago

      This is so fucking dumb that people are being offended by this. Someone please help me understand why I think like this.

    • @tomi000
      link
      213 hours ago

      You are absolutely right but unfortunately people arent ready to head it yet.

      • kate
        link
        fedilink
        English
        412 hours ago

        blahaj is shark plushie from ikea he is cute and soft and he loves hugs