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How fucking scary is it that the richest person in the world is a fucking nazi piece of shit and now one of our supreme leaders? If you ask the people around me, “meh.”
Honestly none of them strike me as true adherents. They just go whichever direction looks like it will give them more power or money. If there is a next administration or some BLM like cause comes back in vogue you’ll see them out there preaching to that choir as if they had always supported that cause.
It’s really important to remind people who are defending Musk what he was doing in Germany just a few days before this salute.
He was fucking defending Nazis.
This salute was no accident.
Even Musk hasn’t claimed it was an accident.
I was talking about this with my friend and she was like, “I heard it’s just a Roman Salute.” Be ready to be surprised at how many people will defend this crap.
It really is sad how many things that little fuck nugget has ruined. In this particular instance I mean Hitler.
Swastika? Neat, simple little geometric shape. Independently created by a few different cultures. Ruined.
“Roman salute”? Kinda neat looking, again simple. And again probably independently invented in a few places, but definitely Roman. Ruined
The charlie Chaplin mustache? More widely adopted after WWI as a style that would fit under a gas mask. Ruined
I’m not trying to campaign to rehab any of these things or apologize for musk. Just kinda sad how all this cool shit got tainted.
“I hear it’s actually just a toothbrush moustache”
everybody calls it a fascist salute, except for fascists who call it a roman salute
That’s what I told her. I let her know that anyone trying to correct her with that is trying to play games.
Completely agree. High five!!! Oh shit. Shit shit shit I forgot How tall I am.
Just a joke. Not defending just a joke. That little weasel doesn’t even have the balls to be an actual Nazi. Nazis are bad but He’s pretending to be a Nazi and denying it. That’s… Somehow… Worse. “Say what you want about the tenets of Nazis, atleast it’s an ethos”
Framing being a Nazi as having a defining rubric of out and proud suggests a false spectrum linking being brave and cowardly seems to a range between Nazi and Not Nazi. It’s more of a boolean function. A Nazi coward hiding in linen cupboard and an audacious Nazi in the streets willing to take a punch are still both just Nazis.
The Nazis had great fashion sense as well. I mean, they murdered millions and all, but looked fantastic doing it.
This new crop has the fashion sense of a neckbeard living in a college dorm.
If you’re going to trample the rights of my loved ones and myself, at least have the decency to wear some spiffy shiny leather boots and accessorize with some skull jewelry.
Have yall thought that it’s maybe possible he did it not because he’s a Nazi, but to troll people and spark outrage?
Who cares if he did it to troll or is actually a Nazi? Either way he’s signalling he might be, and that’s just as bad.
Also, he was in Germany recently defending Nazis, so he’s definitely a Nazi.
He probably did it to troll people and spark outrage but that does not mean that he isn’t also a Nazi / fascist.
That would be just as concerning. Next he might build death camps to troll the libs with that bad taste of humor
Trolling with a Nazi salute would be “just as concerning” as him actually being a nazi? Do you even know what you just said?
Yes, someone who murders for the fun of it scares me even more than just a plain murderer.
Do you know that you just defended someone doing the fascist salute?
Huh? So you are essentially saying that someone doing a Nazi salute as a troll is JUST AS BAD as actually being a Nazi and doing Nazi things? You can’t be for real.
Note: I’m not saying that he is def just trolling, but it seems like it to me personally. I’m not here to defend Nazis or anything like that. I’m simply trying to figure out if you really genuinely believe that a Nazi salute as a troll (hypothetically) is just as bad as actually being a Nazi. To me personally one if def worse than the other.
He’d still be a piece of shit for throwing a Nazi salute during the inauguration of a US president.
There’s zero excuse for him to do this, stop defending fascists.
Sure. But is it the same level of bad if the was trolling vs if he was actually a Nazi. I would argue both are bad, but one is def worse. I wholeheartedly believe that you are completely wacko if you think both are equal.
Dont look at any evidence pointing at the fact he is a nazi, like how he just backed a party that wants to have constitution changed so secret police can do raids without any legal requirement. Sure seems trolly to me to back a party like that. A man with numerous nazi sympathies. Very trolly. would also be incredebly troll if there was more evidence pointing at the fact he harbours nazi sympathies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=706s Oh no look an entire video showing he really hates nazis and was just trolling. Done a year ago.
Why are you dodging? We are not arguing if he is trolling or not anymore. I have completely shifted the argument towards determining if trolling with a nazi salute (if he was hypothetically trolling) was equally as bad as him being a Nazi.
Please go back and read my comments above.
Open your eyes and look at the backlash and take two seconds to take it in. The answer is all around you. No its not as bad as being a literal nazi and its forgivable if some dumb ass kids do it to be edgelords. can’t stop it, dumb kids do tons of stupid things since they are literally by the pure defintion of the word mentally underdeveloped to the point of being deficet, stupid and not of sound body or mind compared to adults. Which is why kids dont get to drink, drive, vote, take real responsibility for their actions, work full time or own guns.
It is very bad when a big public figure and a politican does it at an inauguration. And then doesn’t apolagize. Especially if he has made tweets like responding “actual truth” to posts that say “da joos are importing all the immigrants that ruin america”(paraphrased but an actual, real thing that happened)
Thank you. That’s all I was arguing. Was that so hard?
Glad we agree musk is a nazi piece of shit and everyone defending him is stupid.
He should take a big fat shit on the american flag, set it on fire. Would also be pretty based and trollpilled. Maybe next he should say “lmao get rekt” to all school shooting victims. That would also be really trolly pro gamer move I want a public figure who is also now in politics to make. Very based.
Are you implying that I’m saying what he did is based? If so - you are very wrong. I’m just trying to say that while 2 things can be BAD - one can still be worse. Is that so hard to comprehend?
I saw a nazi just as clearly as you saw a nazi. And no, we did not just see a nazi salute, we saw a complete nazi piece of shit. There’s no more to this story, nothing here is up for debate.
I think we need to include the reaction from Musk on this topic. Frankly, they need better dirty tricks. The “everyone is Hitler” attack is sooo tired 😴.
Not even Musk is denying the salute. He just doesn’t want to be called Hitler.
Someone might, but sure as fuck not twice in a row.
I mean I did once accidentally do one because i was just trying to wave to people sitting on the ground and automatically adjusted my hand angle to be flat towards them and did not realize what I just did until they pointed it out. “Slightly” different context though.
Yeah, I wouldn’t rule out mistakenly doing the salute. But you don’t mistakenly do it twice and then not apologize for doing people considered to be a nazi salute. Even if you do it once and you don’t apologize after being called out you’re a nazi. It’s such a taboo thing that you’d be apologetic or at the very least remorseful or ashamed. Musk is none of those things.
And to anyone defending Musk, if he pulled out his dick and swung it around on stage and then doesn’t show any remorse for showing his dick, would you think it was accidental?
This dude practiced in front of a mirror.
That one was actually trying to be sneaky, kind of. Ah, more innocent times I suppose.
Plausible deniability may be sneaky but certainly isn’t innocent.
Billions of people, including those in high positions and with cameras on them all the time wake up every day, go about their business and then go to bed in the evening without even once doing a nazi salute by accident throughout their day. It’s not that hard actually. I’m on a pretty great streak since my birth as well and it’s really easy.
Just went to LinkedIn just to see bottom of the barrel bootlickers defending him.
” He’s autistic”, ” that picture is taken out of context”, ” it’s a Roman salute”, ” look at these out of context pictures of other politicians making the gesture”, ” how can he be a Nazi if he supports Israel?”
No he did a full on deliberate Nazi salute at a far right event.
I’m genuinely curious: who the fuck defends Elon and Nazis on LinkedIn? Are we so far divided as a country that it’s ok to associate employment with a penchant for Nazism?
Probably simps who can’t accept that Elon isn’t the real life Tony Stark they thought him to be.
And nazis don’t forget the nazis
Is there any difference at this point?
I’m autistic, I’ve never done this gesture. Everyone’s different, of course, but I’ve never seen anyone at all do this by accident. I’ve seen the defence that it’s a “from my heart to yours” gesture, but if that was true, it would be palm up. Palm up is the giving gesture. Palm down is a saluting gesture.
Yeah, excusing it by saying he’s autistic is ableist by itself. We’re not incapable of understanding dog whistles or concepts, you know?
Especially when people in the same breath call Elon a genius. You can’t have it both ways. Either he’s clueless and shouldn’t be in a position of power, or he’s actually a nazi… and shouldn’t be in a position of power
there is no proof in roman writing or painting of this salute, there is no doubt about Musolinis fascist movement using it in 1919 and later the german nazis adopting it
The Roman salute is also known as the fascist salute. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_salute
It’s the oath of the Horatii and asterix - both well known for being reliable historical sources
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What’s decent about defending a Nazi?
He’s not a nazi. It’s questionable at best. And yet you guys go out of your way to shout that he’s a nazi
He looks like a Nazi
Talks like a Nazi
Acts like a NaziWhat would convince you?
That he did something that’s actually bad.
Like killing people.
But just reaching his hands in the air once that might be related Nazism, didn’t make him “definitely a nazi”
Surely we can find hints that somebody is a Nazi before we find out that they’ve killed people.
But jumping to conclusions is bad right?
There’s definitely interpretation to this gesture he did. This doesn’t make him a nazi. The people aggressively trying to push the users that he’s a nazi are acting more like Nazis than him.
This could be a mistake or a silly blunder or even just him trying to throw his affection out. But people shouting and screaming, calling people names and being derogatory is disturbing
He’s posted in support of far-right extremists in Germany and the UK multiple times, he’s ‘liked’ antisemitic posts on his shitshow of a site, he’s used avatars that are used by the alt and far right. And now he’s done this. A nazi salute. He’s a nazi. Nobody needs to ‘go out of their way’ to call him a nazi when everything he says and does shouts the fact from the fucking rooftops.
He’s not a nazi. You think he’s a member of the nazi party? Show me these terrible tweets your talking about
What lies are being spread?
Care to elaborate?
He made a heart thrown out gesture and now there’s all this hysteria probably artificial. That states he’s a nazi for one at the very least questionable event. Yet people are treating him like he’s gasing the Jews
Nazism isn’t limited to hating Jews. They were targeting other marginalized groups at the time. This time they’re targeting a different set of groups, most notably transgender people.
I’ve got to say I don’t like that he likes posts that are anti trans. There’s no need for that.
Go back to sleep troll
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