• @MeaanBeaan
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    Since when does the CDC have the authority to do this in the first place? If the CDC can’t effectively police actions during a global pandemic they sure as shit shouldn’t have to authority to control the terminology used in medical research.

      • @[email protected]
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        Scientists are going to have to start living more modest lifestyles if they want to appreciate science more than wealth.

            • @Duamerthrax
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              Scientists aren’t wealthy to begin with. The only people pushing that idea is the anti intellectual conspiracy theorists you’re listening too.

  • @[email protected]
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    I’m so fucking scared. They’ve inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they’ve defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they’ve codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they’ve attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.

    and now they’re trying to book-burn us out of existence.

    this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.

    There’s just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.

    If people don’t start standing up for us, we’re fucked.

    • @Xanthobilly
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      Wait, how did they mess with passports?

      • @NotMyOldRedditName
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        There was a story about how they wouldn’t renew some transgender persons passport the other day.

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          They confiscated it, wouldn’t give it back and were threatening to arrest her. There are also reports of trans people that were renewing their passports by mail and told they wouldn’t be getting them back.

          • @NotMyOldRedditName
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            Ugh.

            You just know if it was someone sadly following the new requirements, it would have been a very apologetic taking of it and that would be the end, even if traumatic.

            When they threaten to arrest them, they’re in on it.

      • @YarHarSuperstar
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        They are stealing the documents of trans people who go to get new documents including passports, leaving them without identifying paperwork (and identified by the authorities by the paperwork they lost) in a time where that is very convenient for the people in power, and threatening them with arrest if they ask for them back. In addition to what has been said already

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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        They’re refusing to issue passports to people who have had their gender marker legally changed, and some bigoted employees have been illegally confiscating documents (like birth certificates and social security cards) from those who try anyways.

        So if your drivers license gender marker doesn’t match your birth certificate, they’ll refuse to issue the passport, and there’s a non-zero chance that the person behind the desk will steal both when you try to apply. So now you don’t have a passport and you need to go through the arduous process of getting all new ID paperwork just to prove who you are.

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        non-binary people had been getting “X“ instead of M or F on their passport. The Trump administration will no longer allow those passports to be issued

        • @RubberElectrons
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          Seems to be more than that, one person was outright refused any passport, even male, and were threatened with arrest if they asked any more questions. All paperwork (birth certificate etc) was kept by the office in LA.

      • @triptrapper
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        From my sister about my 17y.o. trans niece: “Unfortunately, [niece] had a children’s passport (expired now), so she’s in the group who would not be able to get a passport anymore because her birth certificate and social security don’t currently match each other and don’t match her passport records.”

      • @AFaithfulNihilist
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        The entire passport office is shut down right now .

        They are not issuing new passports.

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          Unless you mean because it’s 3 am on a Sunday, this is blatent misinformation.

          • @andros_rex
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            There have been multiple people in local groups that have reported this happening to them this week. Going to get documentation updated, sent home without anything - not even documentation with natal sex. Local queer org put out an advisory - reached out to all shrinks that work with queer people.

          • @AFaithfulNihilist
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            Maybe it’s just the three trans people I know that are trying to leave the country right now, my brother’s family, and a bunch of family friends that come from a family of pilots and flight attendants.

            I’m sure they are the only people having trouble in the whole country. Must be an isolated incident. … …

            They are all located out west and in the Midwest, so maybe it’s just the Chicago office and the website. I don’t know if anybody has tried doing it through mail correspondence yet but that takes a little bit more time anyway.

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              That’s completely different than, “The entire passport office is shut right now.”. You were either being unnecessarily hyperbolic, or intentionally spreading misinformation. Neither helps in situations like this.

        • @[email protected]
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          For anyone trans or NB, starting with applications received from 1/16. Others are not impacted yet AFAIK.

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      I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine where your head is at right now.

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      All people need is a focus for resistance, a group or a leader to join. Most people are disgusted by this, and despite the election result I still believe most people would rather see trans people happy than suffering. And as the visibility of trans people increases, more and more cis people have been discovering that they know and care about trans people in their own lives. That’s why the hateful fringe feels it’s so urgent to shut trans rights down. They know they have to push people back into fear and silence before transphobia becomes uncommon. And they know they have to silence people talking about these matters to make organized resistance possible. But the quiet is largely people not knowing how to connect and resist, not a lack of desire to resist. It’s time for organized resistance and the first movement that gets going will find many supporters.

      We also need some organization around getting LGBTQ+ refugees out of the USA and into other countries. The restrictions on passports are very ominous.

  • @BananaTrifleViolin
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    An attack on science is an attack on us all. They are trying to erase science they dont agree with. This is Christian fascism - welcome to giliad.

    Anyone in the US please organise - join an anti religious influence group, protest, disobey. You must fight back.

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        science needs politics to not be repressed, politics needs science for being effective and fair.

        • @[email protected]
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          Science doesn’t need politics to tell what is what, it’s science who should be telling politics what is what. Ofcourse politics can block science, e.g. this article.

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        No it surely doesn’t. Politics can exist with no new science.

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      Also, for those leaking info, please do better than the OOP of the screen shot contained in this post. Not saying this is particularly sensitive and I don’t even know if their intent was to remain anonymous. But just a reminder to think about the little things like the “You forwarded this message at 11:17” because if anyone cares, they could easily find out who forwarded that email at that time. I would guess that most government entities could pretty easily come up with justification to fire anyone based on the public dissemination of intergovernmental emails, regardless of whether the contents were specifically noted as sensitive.

      I only felt compelled to comment this because this is the second post I have seen in the last day or so with an identifying feature like that. There are a lot of government employees who probably can’t stomach working under this administration, and I get it. But there is an argument to make that those of you who oppose the administrations stances can do more good from within, or at least do your best to minimize the harm that would be caused by the bootlicking henchmen you will be replaced with.

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      thats not about religion at its roots.

      join an anti-capitalist organization if you wanna go by history. just delusions of revolution otherwise.

  • OBJECTION!
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    The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.

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      The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people

      Impressive that it is actually true, I thought it is an exaggeration. From Wikipedia:

      On 30 January 1933, Adolf Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party, came to power

      On 6 May 1933, a group of students … the students proceeded to shout “Brenne Hirschfeld!” (“Burn Hirschfeld!”) while ransacking and vandalizing the Institute, tearing pictures from the walls, pouring inkwells onto carpets, and destroying exhibitions while the band played outside.

      src: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany

      • OBJECTION!
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        Yeah, when they teach about book burnings they never mention that fact. It also serves as a reminder that trans people are not just a modern phenomenon. The Nazis’ reasons for targeting trans people then are the same as right-wingers today, they look for a small, marginalized group and seize on existing prejudice to sow division and divide and conquer. The Nazis claimed trans people were a Jewish plot to weaken and destroy the Ayran race, and you can still see echos of that in some right-wing rhetoric today.

    • /home/pineapplelover
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      They then executed everyone with a brain. Drs, teachers, engineers, scientists, researchers, etc

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        Hey there. Just letting you know that in general trans people and their allies absolutely do not want to be the center of public attention like this. They didn’t ask for it.

        You’re right, there’s no good reason everyone should be so completely focused on them as a group. But that wasn’t their choice. That was the choice Nazis made when the first books they burned were about gender and sexuality.

        That was the choice Nazis made when they spent the last decade and the foreseeable future demonizing and discriminating against transgender people.

        Not because they asked for it. Not because they deserve it. But because they are the easiest target. Small in numbers. Complex by nature. Difficult to understand for the uninformed and the disinformed. “Different.”

        They don’t consider themselves the center of the universe. Bigots do. Bigots have decided that transgender issues should be the thing everyone cares about right now. If you want to blame anyone, blame them.

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          “You’re right, there’s no good reason everyone should be so completely focused on them as a group.” For me trans or asexual or whatever it’s like see the rain, DON’T CARE. But It’s very annoying that you get constantly bombarded by propaganda 24/7 when I sincerely don’t fucking care. And it’s not like “yeah if you aren’t A or B so you don’t listen this you wouldn’t be affected” it doesn’t work like that. You are the only one that partially understand my intention of normalize trans or LGBT.

      • OBJECTION!
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        How dare I inform people about objective historical facts that relate to modern day news stories 🙄

      • @Duamerthrax
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        You came into a discussion about trans topics being censored and are angry that trans people are being discusses? Do you think this thread is the “fucking center of the universe”?

        • @[email protected]
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          No, I got angry of the fcking topic 24-7. I got angry of the eternal victimization when I do not fucking care about your stupid war against bigots or whatever they call. I got angry that LGBT is used as a tool for big tech in order to sell mediocre products. I got angry bc LGBT feels good with this reality. I got angry that real and current problematic is not confronted and taking into consideration something that passed when even my gparents werent alive. Why the fuck do I have to listen this shit when I have nothing to do with this!!!

          • @Duamerthrax
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            You do not have any self control. You are putting yourself in these positions. This is the Internet. You could just find something else, but I have the feeling your the one with a prosecution complex.

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              Yeah could be, but it happens even when I am not actively looking for topic. Right now “you can buy produce directly from black farmers” ehm, what? aren’t you seeing the problem here?

              • @Duamerthrax
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                Oh no. You got reminded black people exist. Your day has been ruined.

                Get a life and find a therapist.

      • @KuroiKaze
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        Oh shit we just found the dumbest fuck on Lemmy lol

      • @pahlimur
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        It’s objectively true that the German nazi party first went after gender studies they didn’t like. It wasn’t called transgender at the time, but that’s what we call it today.

        I’m a straight white dude and it takes very little thinking to see that trans people are being targeted as “the other” again. So, not kindly, go fuck yourself.

      • @Alpha71
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        There’s this thing called empathy. Maybe you should look into it.

          • @Alpha71
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            Because it costs you nothing.

            • @[email protected]
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              Excuse me what? just because you are LGBT should give more respect that hetero people, you and all the heteros can gtfo. I will disrespect all of you however I want.

              • @Alpha71
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                typical human.

  • db0
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    Literally speedrunning the Nazi handbook.

  • @[email protected]
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    “forbidden terms”

    …must be that “free speech” I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

    Right?

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      to be fair you’ve been hearing about it from this troglodyte:

      • @Daughter3546
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        I don’t see the difference between the two pictures. Is the left one supposed to be black and white? And the right being in colour?

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          One on the right seems pretty black and white too.

  • @postmateDumbass
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    So much money wasted modifying all these documents.

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        For them, it’s worth the cost for greater good harm.

        They don’t care about the greater good. They care about causing as much harm as they can.

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          Uh causing as much harm as possible is their greater good

  • Arghblarg
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    Back up everything. Don’t let it be memory-holed! Holy crap.

    • @[email protected]
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      This needs more upvotes. Granted, the time to back up everything was when project 2025 hit the internet last year.

    • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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      If you have the space for it, please consider helping re-host the Anna’s Archive backup.

  • @MunkysUnkEnz0
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    Don’t they know just because you’ve banned a word, doesn’t mean that the item or thing automatically poofs out of existence?

    This is that easy. There’s a few words I’d love to ban. How about Elmo? And Turd

    • @MothmanDelorian
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      It makes it harder to pursue science when you cannot use the terns others in ypur field use.

    • @dustyData
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      This is a 21st century version of book burning.

    • @chiliedogg
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      Wiping trans people from existence is easier for them to do when nobody is allowed to talk about them.

    • @BradleyUffner
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      It’s just the first step. You don’t acknowledge they exist on paper or in speech. That makes it much easier to turn against them physically. It’s still up in the air whether or not they take the final steps of making their existence illegal. I think they will.

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      What about Turd Ferguson?

  • @NocturnalEngineer
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    Oh look…

    The US is embedding a totalitarian theonomic government. A new, (soon to be) militarized, hierarchy regime of religious fanaticism and newly created social classes, in which DEI is being brutally subjugated.

    I swear I’ve seen this show before…