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Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have [email protected] if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like [email protected] and [email protected] and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic [email protected]
You can also drop a shit(post) off at [email protected] or hang out at [email protected] (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
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Also, it defaults to “Active” view, which is the least updated. You can set your posts to “Hot” and then switch between “Top 6 Hours” and “Top 12 Hours” to get the most of your experience here. It will seem dead with the default.
I usually sort by new comments. Sometimes you’ll see 1 year old post still active in the comments. It’s neat
Game changer
I still wish there was a better sort algorithm. Nothing compares to Reddit’s front page algorithm. I usually cycle between hot and top 12 hours.
I think it is good that we don’t have reddits front page algorithm. I want to stay in charge of curating my feed and prefer there not to be intransparent fuckery in the background.
I want to know that a post with 850 upvotes has indeed been upvoted by 900 accounts and downvoted by 50 accounts, instead of some weird calculations up- or downscaling it.
I’m definitely not saying the algorithm should be a hidden secret, or lie about the up/down vote count. It is all open source of course!
Reddit had this sweet spot where it could push some trending posts to the top of the page within 30 minutes, but also let a story sit for a few hours while it was getting lots of engagement. But generally there is a new front page every few hours or so.
The only way I can get this is by alternating between hot and top 12 hours. But even this is nowhere near as good as the Reddit algorithm.
Yeah, redfots hot algorthym has been finetuned to perfection
intransparent
Opaque?
I checked a translator. In my main language intransparent is the typical term to mean the opposite of transparency in the context of actions of politicans, institutions, etc. The word seem to exist in English but not really used like this.
How would you refer to something, where the information is withheld, even though it should be available information to legitimize the way something is handled, i.e. a government agency?
Yeah I understood what you meant by “intransparent” but it’s not something I’ve ever heard anyone say. “Opaque” is the opposite of the literal meaning of transparent, e.g. a window is transparent, a wall is opaque.
To describe information not being shown I’d probably say obfuscated, opaque, or maybe just hidden.
In the United States, “lack of transparency” or “not transparent” is mostly used. Although “opaque” is sometimes used in some circles of people.
Your English is excellent. I think intransparent works, though it might have the tendency to sound somewhat delicate, as if you needed to avoid saying a simpler antonym, which has the funny side-effect of making you sound like an intellectual or a similar type of advanced speaker.
Wow great word in going to use it.
Top 6 and ALL is where it’s at.
For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I’m starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it’s a little bit weird.
Watching him ‘help’ the fediverse grow by constantly trying to divide and ostracise people would be ironic if it wasn’t so obviously dumb
Definitely a hobby of his
Or a job…
I feel like professionals would be better at it.
Troll farm types usually don’t post as much casual content as he does.
Well, not from one account anyway.
That’s fair.
This whole topic has been the crusade of like two or three people.
The result is mostly just a fourth person being able to post shit like breibart without harassment.
Lemmy is still rather small.
Yeah its pretty pathetic.
It’s a massive astroturf of like 2 ultra liberal dumbasses who read Harry Potter and consider themselves expert on political theory
I hope he’s at least on CIA payroll or something, it would be embarrassing to be THIS dumb without getting money out of it
Wait, what’s wrong with Hexbear? I’m new to Lemmy and read the code of conduct and TOS of Hexbear and it just seems like they’re leftist? I was thinking about registering there 😅
Lemmy can be a bit of a culture shock when you come from Reddit. If someone calls you a libtard on Reddit, it’s because they think you’re a leftist. If someone calls you one on Lemmy, it’s because they think you’re too far to the right of them.
Sooo are the users over at Hexbear considered libtards over here on Lemmy?
Nooo the users on Hexbear are the ones calling others libs for being too far to the right. Though I don’t know how prolific libtard is, just because of the ableism.
That makes so much more sense. Thank you for the insight!
No, the opposite; They’re so far left that leftists aren’t left enough.
If someone calls you a libtard it’s because they’re an ableist POS, and probably a larping conservative.
The proper term for “centrists” from leftists is “shitlib.”
And you wonder why your type are considered insufferable.
Leftists are just jealous that liberals get into office pretty consistently.
When r/chapotraphouse got banned they moved to what is now hexbear. If you didn’t like r/cth you won’t like hexbear, and lots of folks don’t like r/cth.
So here’s the thing… im so new i have no idea what r/chapotraphouse is
Fair and valid, and I envy your brain. They were a shitposter sub on reddit, sorta based on the dirtbag podcast of the same name. They were criticized for brigading and dog piling folks they disagreed with, and largely have a mentality of treating what they see as bad faith with mockery.
All that being said, if you think memes about China taking over the US is funny, they are a fun, active community. Though using it as your primary instance can be a big of a difficulty because lots of other instances block them.
Really I’ve found lemm.ee to be a good home, and you can still see all the posts there and see if it clicks for you.
For right now lemm.ee is my home! I was just looking at the other instances to see if their ideologies better fit mine.
To be clear, I self-identify as liberal, and i am trans. I noticed the c/traaaaa… community on Hexbear seems to be the biggest of the bunch, and that was my favorite sub on reddit, so I started looking in to Hexbear
Hexbear has the largest amount of trans people on one instance as far as I can tell. Lemmy.blahaj.zone is more specifically for trans and queer people, and the admin is trans herself. Lemmy.blahaj.zone is federated with most other instances while many have defederated hexbear because they don’t like when trans people get too uppity. On lemmy.blahaj.zone we are considered the “good ones” or the more acceptable trans people by the other instances because this instance is less partisan/politically opinionated. Not a great situation, but the result is this instance is more widely federated.
Very interesting. I’ll check out lemmy.blahaj.zone as well! Thank you
Blahaj.zone is an instance created by and for trans and queer people, but I think Hexbear beats them in sheer numbers due to instance size. At least go check out /onehundredninetysix, which is the recreation of /196 after the /196 blahaj.zone mods tried to move to Lemmy.world. It had a lot of people pissed, mods had a bad “the users don’t own this community, we do” attitude about it, and eventually /onehundredninetysix was created.
Hexbear’s mods have historically been very strict regarding transphobia so lots of trans people have seen it as a friendly place. I think there was also a migration from blahaj to Hexbear when someone was banned from blahaj for refusing to use the pronouns “drag/drag” for a person who self-identified as a dragon. It was like watching the “I identify as an Apache attack helicopter” meme play out in realtime, and a lot of blahaj users weren’t comfortable with it.
Lots of trans folks head there because the mods of hexbear are very strict about transphobia, and there was a tiff between the two instances specifically around fetishizing trans folks. So worth checking out both to see if either feels more inviting.
self-identify as liberal, and i am trans
What you want in that case is lemmy.blahaj.zone not Hexbear/grad or .ml
They are not actually left, they are authoritarian communists and will defend Chinas CCP and Putin as well as spread the propaganda/misinfo out of there. And if you dare post anything critical of them, no matter how many good sources you give or how factual it is they’ll write it off as “CIA propaganda”, remove it and ban you under their catch-all “Rule 1: Bigotry”
If you want to see more check out [email protected]
If you criticize the chinese communist party you will be labled a sinophobe on Hexbear.
“I’m doing my part!”
Hexbear users are generally more vocal with their opinions and call people out for problematic opinions. Because not everyone shares Hexbear users’ opinions it can come across as very aggressive. My instance has been defederated with them for a while so it’s hard to say exactly what it is like now, but that’s the gist.
I had plenty of positive interactions with them too and enjoyed their communities. It’s easier to notice the one really unenjoyable interaction with someone than the dozens of somewhat positive ones though.
It’s a shame that many instancss defederated with Hexbear and vice-versa… definitely makes having alt accounts necessary so users can get the most out of Lemmy
I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said “owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough” and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.
Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.
If anyone from hexbear insults you, it’s a good thing. That means you’re still human.
I’m new, trying to get a hold of the lingo, is instance like, reference to the server they usually post through? Or like, lemmys equivalent to a sub reddit? What does it mean to defedrate?
reference to the server they usually post through
Roughly, yes. Imagine there isn’t just one reddit, but multiple reddits, all with their own users, sub-reddits and eventually even rules. Now all these multiple reddits can “talk” to each other. That’s why I’m on lemmy.zip and I can see a post someone hast posted on lemm.ee - that is federation. Saved on different servers, but looks like one coherent feed.
Defederation means that an admin of an instance excludes one or more instances from communicating with his. I’m not 100% sure what every implication is, but roughly, the instances can’t communicate with each other, so if lemmy.world defederates from lemmy.zip, for example, we could not have this conversation right now. You also would not see any posts from lemmy.zip and I would not see any from lemmy.world
I see, thank you very much!
I’m really liking it here!
Welcome!
Glad to be here!!
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Yeah… we’re kind of fun.
There’s even some instances with old reddit-like styling/formatting, if you’re into that sort of thing.
I’ll pimp my example: https://old.lemmy.fan/
Given the instance we are on: https://old.feddit.uk/
i’ve only ever used https://old.lemmy.ca/
That works great on mobile!
Man Reddit really has something with that old UI. The new one runs like trash.
The Connect app is based off RiF. Best Lemmy app by far
I loved RiF, but think Sync is better than Connect.
Sync hasn’t been updated in 11 months counting. The bugs are adding up and the dev is more mia than ever, even when charging monthly fees.
I swapped to Summit a couple months back. It’s been a huge improvement. All of the “lemmy” issues I thought I had disappeared.
Is that true!? Wow, maybe I will check out other options. I’ve just spent so much time customizing all the options to get it juuuust right…
Yup, last update was march 2024.
Check out summit. It’s also deeply configurable.
Former tankie turned anarchist. Talk to the Tankies. Learn from them, they have points.
Engles is full of shit (“On Authority” is little more than a business owner complaining that people don’t like authority, and using natural laws of the universe to justify its existence by diluting the definition of authority such that any type of power over anything is considered authority. While this is not technically incorrect, it is a gross oversimplification of what authority means) and is the primary basis for how authority is justified on the Auth left.
But when they tell you to read something, go read it. They shitpost hard, don’t eat the onion, don’t feed the trolls, but engage in genuine conversation *recognizing that you will never agree and using it as a learning experience *
edit: spelling error
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more.
This right here (I’m stealing it lmao)
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future. Not so perfect as to fall into the “Utopia that’s really a Dystopia in disguise” problem, but still a future worth striving for.
All current or past examples of Communism generally involve the sacrifice of personal rights and freedoms to some degree.
ETA: As far as engaging with them goes, I did for a while, multiple times in fact. Once you go beyond their surface level talking points the Authoritarian in them comes out and they will not criticize China/Russia in any shape or form no matter how deserving.
It’s really only been the last few months that I’ve actually been proactive against them because now I see the damage they do to the Lemmy-verse with their propaganda and misinformation.
I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of “The Star Trek Economics” which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future.
To boldly go where money has no power over biology 💪
I was on Lemmy when lemmy.ml was the biggest server and I’m glad that despite the biggest server being tankie nominated Lemmy could grow into what it is today.
You can tell they’re communists cuz they live rent free in the heads of every .world user.
calling tankies communists is like calling Scandinavia socialist
I think people are just bothered because they’re tankies
idk, with how folks call out others for being a tankie, it sounds a lot more like the new pinko
I guess if the person being called a pinko was a socialist. Pejorative for sure but not wrong.
This would be incorrect.
For them to even have the option of rent being waived, that would have to mean that we are all, in some sense- landlords. And it’s commonly known in these parts that landlords are perceived as greedy capitalistic pig-dogs, so, if we are to assume for the sake of discussion that this is true-
… then there can be no reality in which anyone or anything lives rent free in our heads.
There’s no reality in which anyone or anything is rent free in our heads.
Wow somebody is a big reality understander. Impressive.
(Seriously tho it’s called a metaphor.)
Wow. Someone is a big metaphor understander.
(Seriously though- I was making a joke)
For help migrating: [email protected]
This name should really be changed to something else
They’ve changed the display name but the ID can’t be altered as, I presume, it counts as the address.
Would be a good opportunity to try out the concept of migration, which is the new name of the community
Fair.
Yay for bringing up Mander :-)
These posts are so fucking cringe lol. Its always the same guy posting them.
One by one? Dessalines blanket bans you from everything if you break one of their unwritten rules. Relatedly, just write out your rules. Stop trying to be sneaky-deeky. It’s ridiculous, having ultra secret rules like some sort of boy’s club. Be up front about it. It surely doesn’t take long to write “avoid questioning China or Russia” in the sidebar
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Yea, getting site-banned is also fun, I can make posts like these and none of the .ml tankies can see it outside their alts LMAOOO
Man you’re getting worse than the hexbear edgelords who just shit on the liberals all day, except at least they’re yelling at people in power and not some extremely marginal leftists who would be shot before they could ever take a seat in politics.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
Sounds good, except I believe them to be actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse, so it’s important to make a clear stand, if total defederation isn’t happening.
I’d rather not Lemmy end up as another Voat. I’ve already seen tons of stories from the original rexit of “I tried Lemmy, but .ml/hex/grad seemed cringy/hostile so I left”
I think that people who choose corporate media, where /r/the_donald sentiments are actively reinforced by the corporation, over lemmy, because they found hex/grad/ml users “cringe/hostile” are not comparing things on a neutral basis.
you’re entirely right, but…have you met people?
the reputation of the Lemmy-verse
As long as the main devs of Lemmy are Dessalines and other communists, then the reputation of the Lemmy-verse being tied to a bunch of highly communist instances is just an objectively correct fact. Liberals are free to fork their own version of the software and call it something else.
Tankies, they’re tankies, there’s nothing wrong with the theory of communism. What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
And also, there’s nothing Tankie about Lemmy itself. It’s just computer code that is a Reddit-like link aggregator. It falls under separating the art from the artist. And because it’s open source, there’s no concern of financially supporting it either from its use (unless you make an explicit choice to donate)
there’s nothing wrong with the theory of communism
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What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
That’s exactly what liberals of Lemmy do though.
When was the last time you spoke against Zelensky’s regime, that literally turned my country into a concentration camp that people cannot leave and are kidnapped off the streets (and even fucking hospitals!) in front of their crying wives/mothers, to be sent into the meatgrinder and never be seen again?
That’s a rhetorical question, of course you never did (and those who do, including me, are paid Russian shills, tankies or just bots). Because for a liberal, it’s never “authoritarianism bad” or “Nazism bad” or “human rights violations bad” or anything like this - it’s only bad when the other side is doing it. When “the good guys” are doing it, it’s not just totally acceptable, the guy is a hero.
War surely is cruel isn’t it.
The only thing more cruel than war is liberals.
Nothing is more cruel than war
He won’t speak against Zelensky’s regime, because he’s not opposed to fascists. He’s just trying to pretend his basic Sinophobia, and racism against Asians, is some kind of political philosophy.
If they actually cared about “the reputation of Lemmy,” they wouldn’t be tying it to CIA propaganda.
I just think there’s a contradiction in a) continuing to use a platform that is developed primarily by Communists and b) thinking that the platform being associated with Communists “actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmyverse”. The fact is that the Lemmyverse is associated with Communists - or “tankies” as you insist on calling them - and so if that’s its reputation then the reputation is accurate.
there’s no contradiction, because the developer does not matter. that’s the entire point of FOSS.
it could be written by a literal nazi (not that there’s a big difference between brown and red fascists) and it wouldn’t matter one bit.
that’s the entire beauty of FOSS!
we ALL own the code.
if Dessalines ever stops developing it, anyone can take over.
if Dessalines implements code the community at large doesn’t like, anyone can create a fork and change that specific part and continue from there.
we can see exactly what the code does, and can create new versions at any point.
that was always the reason behind decentralized, open source networks:
nobody can own it.
we ALL own the code
No you don’t. As a user, you don’t get a share of the copyright of free software, you get a license (permission) from the copyright owner. The copyright owner owns the code, not all of you.
i mean…yeah? kinda? on a technicality?
Developers that use our General Public Licenses protect your rights with two steps: (1) assert copyright on the software, and (2) offer you this License which gives you legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify the software.
you assert the first part as fact and then kinda skip over the second part…at least that’s how i read your comment.
yes, the copyright owner (the creator) “owns” the work…but then immediately uses said ownership to explicitly allow everyone else to do just about anything with it, short of claiming it as one’s own creation.
you are the best kind of correct, but only that kind.
Weird post.
Most definitely. I’m getting pretty sick and tired of the constant complaining about those Lemmy instances.
Ironically the founder and programmer is a communist
tankies aren’t communists. Marx would’ve laughed at authoritarians calling themselves communists
They aren’t tankies though. That’s just a label applied by everyone else when the communists point out supporting Nazis is bad.
anyone who supports China isn’t a communist, end of discussion. you couldn’t define communism even with Das Kapital in front of you
K. Except I never declared support for China, so what are you on about?
Denying that the tiananmen square massacre happened is pretty obvious support for China.
Y’all really do live your lives like this. Treating everything in this world like team sports. ‘If you’re anti-CIA, you must be pro-China! If you’re anti-Nazi, you must be pro-Russia!’
It’s like talking to children.
https://www.liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt/
Woo \o/ Hopefully this time the server I picked won’t suddenly vanish and take all the communities I’d managed to find and subscribe to from me. 😅 Gonna make sure I make regular exports and maybe have a second account on another server just incase.
