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Sure just kill 12 specific kids across the entire US in the name of “being fair”. Fuck those 12 kids. How DARE they exist.
In bodybuilding, yes. Does he even lift?
Sure let’s base everything off of kid’s and young adult’s birth genitalia rather than their athletic abilities in athletic competitions. I guess all that noise about “meritocracy” was just bullshit, right? Also the noise about “participation trophies” was bullshit too since we can’t have anyone with any perceived advantages in competitive environments.
It’s not that simple, you need to understand the effects that Hormone Replace Therapy has on the body. Men and trans women physically do not have the same type of body and the studies even shows trans women perform worse than cis women in most areas.
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Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lower-body strength.
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Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lung function.
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Transgender women had a higher percentage of fat mass, lower fat-free mass, and weaker handgrip strength compared to cisgender men.
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Transgender women’s bone density was found to be equivalent to that of cisgender women, which is linked to muscle strength.
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There were no meaningful differences found between the two groups’ hemoglobin profiles. Hemoglobin (Hb) plays a crucial role in athletic performance by facilitating improved oxygen delivery to muscles. Elite endurance athletes may exhibit up to a 40% higher level of Hb compared to untrained individuals. Moreover, heightened levels of Hb typically correlate with enhanced aerobic performance.
I want you to stop and really think critically about what you are trying to suggest. Do you really think it’s a good idea for trans men who are regularly taking testosterone should be forced to compete against women who aren’t? Do you really think trans women who have lower testosterone levels than cis women (because they are medically surpressing) have some sort of advantage?
What you’re saying is at odds with observable facts, scientific studies and frankly common sense.
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my argument there is that no one under 18 should be using hormonal treatment to treat gender dysphoria.
You do not deserve to stand between psychiatrists, endocrinologists and their patients. The medical community overwhelming disagrees with this assertion and you do not have the right, authority or education to make these sort of limitations.
People will make up all kinds of mental gymnastics
Science. We use scientific studies. Your gut reaction and feelings are not more valid than numerous peer reviewed studies.
I do not refute that gender affirming care does lead to better outcomes. I said that no one under 18 should be receiving hormonal treatment to treat gender dysphoria, given the very permanent effects of such a thing and the well documented inability of making long term decision with an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex.
Counseling, and other non hormonal or surgical treatments should be the norm until 18 or even 21.
This is an impasse, I know. I for one would love to see studies being carried out by research teams made up of people that oppose the treatment of minors. As it stands (as far as I’ve seen) every research has been carried out by people who were already in favor of it, making it biased by definition.
Are you also opposed to people under 18 undergoing chemotherapy for cancer, given the very permanent effects of such a thing? Or is dysphoria the only medical condition you think children should be made to just suffer from?
If you want to have a serious discussion at least try to use serious arguments. I will answer with the same amount of bad faith that you asked that question.
Yes, gender dysphoria is the only condition I can think of to which this applies. It is a very unique condition, so that should not be surprising.
Amazing how transphobes never even try to address this. It’s almost as if they’re acting in bad faith
Very level headed take. I agree.
You don’t know any trans ppl do you?
